From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23478: 25.0.93; Mouse region selection asymmetry Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 19:04:43 +0200 Message-ID: <87zipt5qhg.fsf@gmx.net> References: <878tzky2oe.fsf@gmx.net> <83eg9cecy2.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpn4wgev.fsf@gmx.net> <8360uoe5ye.fsf@gnu.org> <87shxswd5s.fsf@gmx.net> <834ma8e3ll.fsf@gnu.org> <871t3bhbpz.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87poqun63w.fsf@gmx.net> <83furqratc.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9c6mkb0.fsf@gmx.net> <83vb0mp1ok.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpl17pvs.fsf@gmx.net> <83eg79pi29.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn2d736k.fsf@gmx.net> <83furongms.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3b6btyi.fsf@gmx.net> <83poqqli77.fsf@gnu.org> <878txd7irj.fsf@gmx.net> <8360shlb4d.fsf@gnu.org> <874m8176zx.fsf@gmx.net> <83wpkxjsxf.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467911192 15578 80.91.229.3 (7 Jul 2016 17:06:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 17:06:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23478@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 07 19:06:23 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCko-0006of-Ld for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Thu, 07 Jul 2016 17:06:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23478) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2016 17:05:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41454 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCjZ-0003IF-Gr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 13:05:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:64626) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCjY-0003Hi-7C for 23478@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 13:05:04 -0400 Original-Received: from rosalinde ([89.245.112.189]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M0h9K-1bYsUd0BF0-00uodh; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 19:04:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83wpkxjsxf.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 07 Jul 2016 19:48:12 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:wXBx4nJ4PSwxtjm7S2AIaIN7AZG7M6zYppGzyBVhat4LXCHOKUS iGHuzGDS8/dS5C2JQJH5zbHDFmIZZa8zTnpVHHPRCKDh3OCd85pBYuSQ/153lQElZBhjaDp GZpH6rRmWZMYtVh4OMskoeOOhLTStXlxlVs08W5sB8PlhqwNfSNEygEBjT0Po2r+G4l7tgW 4+5wUTCliWUihjw/mceig== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:gKUCDJer4/8=:KvVqeJ+vE77w4rYo8aq4DG JdUaFUJiZr6kpEwM9K+BnNfD2g/q98j3ydpQVmlZvuiaF91qB37gtyzbgqqxSl4C447YUl6dX y40J0aYU2fOBfTwuNq3kzVfWc/oJlGs8qaTZ09nQzmxOac5RqHXfDFBYkv3+XvECWUzQ9izkp Q5rC8FoJImM2UADalvaT2jsyj12HaWg384La9lUu+JxJI1h5ba7Hv12XceLBC26oVG7Q2BAh4 SDio0m7ZtYU0pH902e10/1D+z5LMcvOfepEdeOihkYbciyiVZDb/xqj4rQEXyoLlWGBEOzHa6 Kn2zvF1aEjAhlTc1lxkii3GZ/MBlLXgeMAOdVenit/H8/dmrQx4n04ijUkOI1nCZ/brBDAZi7 II1Ozrhk8CtFNspBXnAq7p5YGIgOoj+f84uRokNK2id8/19skrYMEAvY2orUDS9LojVc87aTn j0XyVOkyZb47kM4jZkZRmhjX6qu7s5bI/4HAmWwvvZIeoC13yJbBGIlqHf7EQH409i47W2WjL rirgcMyJZbpx/+OJGSb1wRHgXK+AO+dYGM89sMi14hIzipQsY/NgASFHxdKQ/xKBiH2CzNj51 3IISAkLlV036tTMk/QUspYPZBE1h6/CenjWotVsVYRQr2ry6hr/UPJTH5wrDhIDAjjL+LIqVP f1Y2NsyS4KRDkml+7T4BJN/OS8IyA2nomMMYZjcAtruxIJwNcFFleNGy+rG/SvOEn7fpc8M6v WoKuoZ5LRGNTZVISMPP973VRsePAGOkxOWDGQF9Wz5fcZuKXwmDJUHJ346M2Io0mK0NXXoNO X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:120585 Archived-At: On Thu, 07 Jul 2016 19:48:12 +0300 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Stephen Berman >> Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 23478@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 18:22:42 +0200 >> >> What do you understand by "selection backward"? > > mouse-select-region-backward can be interpreted as "mouse selects > region backward". I still don't get it, but I'll drop it. >> My intention was to indicate that this variable controls selecting >> the region when you double-click at region-end > > But "region-end" doesn't appear in the name. > > How about mouse-select-region-at-region-end ? This sounds a bit convoluted and also not so clear to me; how about referring to the action instead of the result: mouse-double-click-at-region-end ? >> >> One somewhat embarassing aspect of describing this option is that is >> >> makes the default asymmetrical behavior painfully obvious without >> >> providing a rationale for it (and I don't know of any). I suppose we >> >> could add "for historical reasons" after "by default".... >> > >> > I don't think it's needed: since point doesn't move, no scrolling >> > should be expected. >> >> What's not needed: the phrase "for historical reasons", a rationale for >> the asymmetrical behavior, or any description of the user option? In >> other words, are you saying the doc changes in the patch are acceptable? > > The rationale is not needed, IMO. Ok. Steve Berman