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From: "Göktuğ Kayaalp" <self@gkayaalp.com>
To: Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Enable customisation for electric-quote-mode chars
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 16:24:17 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zinqh1tq.fsf@xi.bootis> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP_d_8V0qV1Dzzok3Kk8zf2a4_3-PVoX+KC+7dqifQUGtb6yPQ@mail.gmail.com> (message from Yuri Khan on Fri, 2 Sep 2016 16:37:03 +0600)

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> From: Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>
> Date: 2016-09-02 04:37:03 PM +0600
> Yuri Khan wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>>> The presentation of the table upthread strongly suggests the
>>> outer/inner semantic, while the user-faced feature itself is about
>>> mapping single and double quote-like key presses to typographic
>>> quotation marks.
>>
>> IOW, you would like to see the below instead?
>>
>>                      | curved69          | “” ‘’   |
>>                      | japan             | 『』 「」 |
>
> At least this option should be considered, yes.

At this point what I think is that maybe we shouldn't be this
prescriptive about the use of this feature, given that there have been
three different semantic groupings of quotation marks already in this
thread: inner/outer, primary/secondary, double/single.  Each of these
cause subtle variations, and in predefining alternatives we're having to
choose one of them, and make tradeoffs.  And predefined values will
strongly /suggest/ our choice of groupings, limiting the user.  I think
the best option is to stick to the default (“” ‘’), improve the
documentation and let the users interpret what this is (as inner/outer,
primary/secondary or double/single, or sth. else) and accordingly
exploit it freely.

> (I’m still unsure how useful the whole feature would be for users of
> layouts that do not include ` or ' or only feature them as dead keys,
> but my view of the prevalence of such layouts is necessarily skewed.)

-- 
İ. Göktuğ Kayaalp.
http://gkayaalp.com/

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-02 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-27 14:22 [PATCH] Enable customisation for electric-quote-mode chars Göktuğ Kayaalp
2016-08-27 14:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-27 15:23   ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2016-08-27 19:16     ` Paul Eggert
2016-08-28  1:00       ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2016-08-29  1:55         ` Paul Eggert
2016-08-29  5:28           ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2016-08-29  6:14             ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-05 18:53               ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2016-10-05 19:06                 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-06  6:40                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-06 21:31                     ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-07 18:33                       ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2016-10-10  3:57                         ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-13 18:28                           ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2016-10-13 18:35                             ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-22 14:00                               ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2016-10-23 10:25                                 ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-23 15:09                                   ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2016-10-27 15:12                                     ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-27 17:21                                       ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2016-08-29 15:08             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-29 15:54               ` Yuri Khan
2016-08-29 16:23                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-29 16:27               ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2016-08-29 16:39                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-29 17:19                   ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2016-08-29 17:30                 ` Paul Eggert
2016-08-29 17:44                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-29 18:43                     ` Paul Eggert
2016-08-29 19:30                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-30 17:38                         ` Paul Eggert
2016-08-30 17:49                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-31 11:08                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-09-01 18:56                         ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2016-09-01 19:15                           ` Paul Eggert
2016-09-01 21:13                             ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2016-09-01 21:30                               ` Paul Eggert
2016-09-02  5:06                                 ` Yuri Khan
2016-09-02  7:30                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-02 10:37                                     ` Yuri Khan
2016-09-02 13:24                                       ` Göktuğ Kayaalp [this message]
2016-08-29 16:15           ` tarball builds (was: [PATCH] Enable customisation for electric-quote-mode chars) Stefan Monnier
2016-08-30 15:14             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-30 15:53               ` tarball builds Stefan Monnier
2016-08-30 15:59             ` Paul Eggert
2016-08-30 17:00               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-08-30 17:58                 ` Paul Eggert
2016-08-29  2:33         ` [PATCH] Enable customisation for electric-quote-mode chars Eli Zaretskii

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