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From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: server-local variables
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 21:47:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zilk5jq3.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a8dk77do.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Mon, 31 Oct 2016 13:31:15 -0400")

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> MA> (server-locals-set-class
> MA>  "my-user@my-remote-host" 'remote-bash)
> MA> (server-locals-set-class
> MA>  "my-user@my-remote-host" 'remote-nullfile)
>
> That seems awkward compared to (server-locals-set-classes CRITERIA CLASSES...)
> (in other words, I expect mixing classes to be the common case, so it
> should be easy).

Makes sense. Noted.

>>> * can classes be assigned by other means besides regexp?
>
> MA> No, not foreseen yet.
>
> I'd make it a regexp or a callable thing, that will cover 99% of the
> cases I can imagine.

Possible. Noted.

>>> * a macro `with-process-classes' would be nice
>
> MA> How shall it look like?
>
> I'd use it in a process to widen or narrow permissions and environment:
>
> ...connect to a host, then...
>
> (with-process-classes temporary-sudo-override temporary-shell-override
> ansible-host-environment
>   ...do something)
>
> It would take care of setting the connection-local variables inside the
> scope and unwinding them afterwards.

I see. The problem is unwinding the local variables; they could exist
already as local variables when entering the macro. But in general it
shall be possible, when implementing proper book-keeping.

Btw, I wouldn't call it with-*process*-classes. server-local (or
connection-local) variables could be applied to any buffer with a remote
default-directory. 

> MA> Process buffers are the first, obvious use case for this. But I don't
> MA> want to restrict it to them. People could use it also for setting other
> MA> local variables in any remote buffer, maybe even for specific modes.
> ...
> MA> But I still believe there will be non-Tramp use cases. As already said,
> MA> ange-ftp comes to mind.
>
> OK, please take a look at the GnuTLS glue code in gnutls.el and you'll
> see what I need from this facility. I'm happy to start using it there as
> soon as the API is solidified. I have a TODO item (discussed with Lars a
> few months ago) to implement something like this facility so it's great
> to see it's not an isolated need :)

I've looked shortly on this. Seems like you need a mechanism for
`gnutls-boot-parameters'.

> Ted

Best regards, Michael.



  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-31 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-30 18:39 server-local variables Michael Albinus
2016-10-30 20:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-30 20:28   ` Michael Albinus
2016-10-31  3:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-31  9:54       ` Michael Albinus
2016-10-31 11:17         ` Phil Sainty
2016-10-31 12:45           ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-10-31 15:42           ` Michael Albinus
2016-10-31 20:15             ` Phil Sainty
2016-10-31 13:43         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-31 16:30           ` Michael Albinus
2016-10-31 12:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-10-31 13:36   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-31 21:03     ` Drew Adams
2016-11-01  2:08       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-11-01  5:08         ` Drew Adams
2016-10-31 16:26   ` Michael Albinus
2016-10-31 17:31     ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-10-31 20:47       ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2016-11-01 13:22         ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-11-14 14:02           ` Michael Albinus
2016-11-15 15:02             ` GnuTLS per-connection variables (was: server-local variables) Ted Zlatanov
2016-11-24 12:50               ` GnuTLS per-connection variables Michael Albinus
2016-11-29 16:07                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-11-28 18:54               ` Michael Albinus
2016-12-05 15:09                 ` Michael Albinus
2016-12-05 16:27                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-12-05 16:49                     ` Michael Albinus

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