From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#26036: tramp (2.2.13.25.1); bug report form is so frustrating Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2017 19:57:01 +0100 Message-ID: <87zigujn2a.fsf__39851.768493145$1489085898$gmane$org@detlef> References: <8737enkr6y.fsf@jidanni.org> <87ziguv9g1.fsf@jidanni.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1489085898 15412 195.159.176.226 (9 Mar 2017 18:58:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 18:58:18 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 26036@debbugs.gnu.org, tramp-devel@gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 09 19:58:12 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cm3GK-0002yI-8k for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Thu, 09 Mar 2017 19:57:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87ziguv9g1.fsf@jidanni.org> ("=?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Thu, 09 Mar 2017 21:58:06 +0800") X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:WWMBR+jZhOJ2o6bOwLD0E25XDqygH6F17WQd80cy3xu9Jrfeq1m HXrgYcsSsJuug+iYl3ZE1Ajmkx4YILzt94DgmVQuCxW28OmSPC715IYLID4zH/w5vLJMuaD sXBlkhHYhN8O4uoxLrrzebOX2hHT0h0aVQwI4usMGSkuUIazxMMlYJ1XP99tokODsAuBG1H 9zzJ7PTTlWUojg5fsHCMw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:+9L+7S+ldCg=:304QyBfsLnmrEbN496ukBK vTvWOTltGq73G3GU2YgypdjpZmJh0hFAMfaTrq6ktMrCwXNS7Ot30UA2ifHP0DSCGw1z+TX3j WfWXFhpLpVWzrNMDk+YgswTpuRqtkVZsIiuA2dyPIJdzLMvtgmB44+z8bd3TPAj7jUCpZOupX LLtQ/N9hhF2eH8kuUQ6/a34Fy4rWSETySl4z061XwaWyfKcE/tZ8pSCPTxJykU1ZbAmL/3Ggr 2zujmpiAoKZHIZz3fuMTnaYLaeo29UqkTjDO4gMq49wpNEBnmQ8YiQZ1sOBrnIlviqru5DnZc TtVtc7nVeSEVrly5DYILXOgK2XNXSm6jOkkNjvGd2FQwooGbxEMvUvIHtrGBAUxqcYgZm+aJG 786k2hVZFCo1Pc83jqCG+hfcr9jbkThiPKLnPEZQCn2nzOkzoAIFdEYTV9G0S9i3ugGbiyZTi DrIHkSfHHzRdCKEoUAThvziS9nrPKECd/sb+owU6/0DTmOmq+aRt8iHGqz14fwag/N8DSGhkD K7ZWYJLxhRe7S32tyR9KCUL++bW2yQhdW25fclMzdoYdQcYvAhLxf62sUE5kTXuwsv5C1MX1k G8JSeUgdEB/B+WJxzQ1HkKkedL1LQIuqohYLXeflDil9AYkWC9pE6ctinhBeNgV24nh+H9Yz4 eVHKcO+9masbdHEZ4wcpxcPlQbq2G/gbPMIVfcg7xT42aYeqQJvjamAqf2slM7U28yiBTto/s FMBuCsVM/zs3O2mAQ1jay0lA7AwSBkBkULmVkuB9Ru5y2/2ovszXKCl8Ap5hmrHqk35CzW0B X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:130388 Archived-At: =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes: >>>>>> "MA" =3D=3D Michael Albinus writes: > MA> =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes: > > MA> Hi Dan, > >>> Your bug report form is so frustrating. >>>=20 >>> At its top is a line (setq tramp-verbose 9) which the user is not >>> allowed to put his cursor nearby. > > MA> At the top of the bug report, the text is shown with the `display' te= xt > MA> property. This is because this text shall not be sent with the messag= e. > > MA> This is a usual technique for bug reports. > > MA> Best regards, Michael. > > I'll CC bug-gnu-emacs to tell them that better would just be plain text > with the words > --text-below-won't-be-sent > Bla bla bla > --text-above-won't-be-sent > > 1. it is now clear that the magic region won't be sent. > 2. The user can finally copy words on *his* screen (he bought the > computer. He ought to be allowed to copy... without needing to try > SHIFT etc.) This is not a bug. Explanation text in the bug report is not intended to be touched. Best regards, Michael.