From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Joost Kremers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some developement questions Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 09:59:51 +0200 Message-ID: <87zhww9xxk.fsf@phil.uni-goettingen.de> References: <8336v6cvem.fsf@gnu.org> <8736v6icgt.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83tvnmb958.fsf@gnu.org> <877ekigiiw.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <837ekhb2me.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhxcbmtr.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83in409lub.fsf@gnu.org> <871sanb71j.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83y3cu7t9j.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg8t2ki9.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <20180827015422.lcq44zvsjffeau4j@Ergus> <83a7p76f5e.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg8p9o6y.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83pnxx1foj.fsf@gnu.org> <87k1o1a06q.fsf@russet.org.uk> <877ek1ql6u.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <19f783eb-a688-2a69-e209-ea161177c8cb@cs.ucla.edu> <83pnxsy8dp.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536134295 22053 195.159.176.226 (5 Sep 2018 07:58:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 07:58:15 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: mu4e 1.1.0; emacs 26.1.50 Cc: hw@adminart.net, Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, spacibba@aol.com, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 05 09:58:11 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fxShW-0005aV-Sp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2018 09:58:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54380 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fxSjc-00019L-Tp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2018 04:00:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47526) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fxSjU-000167-NS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2018 04:00:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fxSjS-00070K-QM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2018 04:00:12 -0400 Original-Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:41631) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fxSjM-0006ov-Rq; Wed, 05 Sep 2018 04:00:04 -0400 Original-Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141D120FE0; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 03:59:59 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 05 Sep 2018 03:59:59 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=xW7wV5nbqBsuswwTTKLNzfUOQwmdj zkMi+8UiJPpJkA=; b=YWYSaWWEsjlppf4RpiZi1J8yca3KFZ3Tz/Bedrna1q7oD /E70WLJU1HupRnNr88p0WItu30w9nCi4fSLrsnYW1z/CXiVAkAFOCAnv9Zcr6VIQ R6mUhbiX1aWzlzwsIVFfJ/lwSgg+EFFN80f1+KbzrjEhjkuTqESfED6Wb4PxuUOn hoHj7kE0du5leflvsp8rlCg9gaYPAjctfkOEk5f/FnvOnQBNe5DrxJdyrFElMHXr tDvswVIfMfc1tOB8w5iBaVdONgUIYlHy52BKh3cqFAF08WGe8x/ad+hpJ4inG35J mdpbQ1Kso+X7YNoaULrtEdgAKHtJkh3RjBUeB6J0w== X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Original-Received: from IdeaPad.fastmail.com (5ed52e0d.cm-7-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl [94.213.46.13]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EE5F1E462B; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 03:59:56 -0400 (EDT) In-reply-to: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 66.111.4.25 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229283 Archived-At: On Wed, Sep 05 2018, Paul Eggert wrote: > Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> What newbies see when they start Emacs is not*scratch*, it's >> the >> splash image and the welcome buffer. > > True; I'd forgotten. But we could still spruce up those bottom > two lines, no? > They're still using monospaced fonts and look like refugees from > the 1980s. IMHO the monospace font is not the problem. The font I get when I do `emacs -Q` looks quite good (it's DejaVu Sans Mono, BTW). But some way to visualise different types of information (similar to what most mode-line packages do), perhaps a few unicode symbols and a default way to put things at the right side of the mode line would, I think, go a long way to make the mode line look more modern. -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments