From: Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Time to consider/try Helm?
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 18:11:00 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zhuvgv9n.fsf@bsb.me.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.3102.1540910509.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
> On Tuesday, 30 Oct 2018 at 04:21, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>>>
>>> My journey was vanilla -> Ido -> Icicles -> Ivy.
>>
>> Completely naive question, but what do these packages provide? I've been
>> using Emacs for 30+ years and I've never heard of any of them. I guess I
>> need to get out more.
>
> if it's any consolation, I've also been using Emacs for 30+ years and
> I've only managed to get to ido so far... ;-)
I'm not quite up to 30 years (not much off, mind) but I keep trying
these sorts of thing and I keep going back to the default.
In part it's just muscle memory. I just tried Ivy again and can't stop
myself from hitting TAB TAB which "acts on" an item in Ivy. I kept
loading executable files like "program" rather than "program.c". I
think these more sophisticated frameworks would benefit from a set of
"compatibility" key binding and definitions so that you could go step by
step trying out the new parts without getting frustrated by old habits.
Mind you I got further this time... Last time I got frustrated by my
habit of using M-x <up> to get the last (and other previous) commands.
But this time I read enough of the documentation to find that M-p does
that in Ivy's mini buffer. Still going to be hitting <up> a lot but at
least that does not execute any action that I might not want.
Maybe this time I'll stick it out...
--
Ben.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-30 18:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-29 12:43 Time to consider/try Helm? Jonathon McKitrick
2018-10-29 14:48 ` Boris Buliga
2018-10-30 7:11 ` YUE Daian
2018-10-30 8:19 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-10-30 9:21 ` Skip Montanaro
2018-10-30 10:19 ` YUE Daian
2018-10-30 10:31 ` Boris Buliga
2018-10-30 14:41 ` Eric S Fraga
2018-10-30 14:47 ` Boris Buliga
2018-10-30 14:47 ` Óscar Fuentes
[not found] ` <mailman.3102.1540910509.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-30 18:11 ` Ben Bacarisse [this message]
2018-10-31 10:38 ` Eric S Fraga
2018-10-30 22:19 ` Rémi Letot
2018-10-31 4:14 ` YUE Daian
2018-10-31 10:34 ` Eric S Fraga
2018-10-31 10:57 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-10-31 12:17 ` Eric S Fraga
2018-10-31 11:08 ` YUE Daian
2018-10-31 10:59 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-10-31 11:23 ` YUE Daian
2018-10-31 19:03 ` Rémi Letot
2018-10-31 19:08 ` Boris Buliga
2018-11-01 19:27 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-11-02 3:55 ` YUE Daian
2018-11-03 14:09 ` Neal Becker
2018-10-30 6:48 ` Vladimir Sedach
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