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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FROM_EXCESS_BASE64=0.979, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251069 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 20.05.2020 17:37, Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora wrote: >> Aww, come on! It's just that sometimes it seems you >> just want to stir up controversy for no benefit. > > It was an honest question. Sorry, I didn't read it as such. And it will inevitably bring back echoes of a silly feud, for something that is not anywhere near being really on the table. > > Stefan, but sounds he was expressing an idea I agree with: > > LSP functionality could have that fact encoded in the name of > > the associated command. > And in another message you expressed an opinion that the user > shouldn't have to think about any Lumpy Space Princesses, things > should just work. Yes, that's even better. But Stefan's idea is already half-way in the direction I want to go, hence it is agreeable, because compromise. Jo=C3=A3o