From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Teemu Likonen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A modern-mode? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255818 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * 2020-09-15 18:36:53Z, Andrea Corallo via wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >> Part of the difference between a minor mode and a custom theme is >> that a custom theme is more declarative, with consequences such as >> the fact that a user can enable your hypothetical "modern theme" but >> with `fido-mode` disabled, and it won't have the effect of "enabling >> and then disabling" `fido-mode` (e.g. running `fido-mode-hook` twice >> along the way). > > Sounds like is what we want. Happy to have a look into this direction. Also note that the whole "modernism" concept could be split into different themes. Then user could toggle them individually. Something like: modern-settings modern-keybindings modern-decorations modern-color-light modern-color-dark Or whatever. =2D-=20 /// Teemu Likonen - .-.. http://www.iki.fi/tlikonen/ // OpenPGP: 4E1055DC84E9DFF613D78557719D69D324539450 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iIYEARYIAC4WIQTJW2wqtelxC1gHdbitnXWr7pTCcwUCX2GRURAcdGxpa29uZW5A aWtpLmZpAAoJEK2ddavulMJzvi4A+wTObQX1SzTnLFClk8HLCHbUoCNwWJ1pbSg7 fZ94FcA0AP40b5v8U4i2e5i0xZ6F2eIWQhhhWgTYHRShP+2NCPayCw== =T3QG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--