From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Recentish C-s M-y change Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 19:19:42 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87zh1xonkh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87r1na4tyu.fsf@gnus.org> <87tus6tj7s.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33804"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 28 18:27:50 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ktwJB-0008gW-6r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 18:27:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58436 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ktwJA-0000Xj-9k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 12:27:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48574) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ktwDd-0004gI-Vd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 12:22:05 -0500 Original-Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.200]:54705) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ktwDc-000879-9I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 12:22:05 -0500 X-Originating-IP: 91.129.99.98 Original-Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-99-98.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.99.98]) (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9D54720002; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 17:22:01 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87tus6tj7s.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Mon, 28 Dec 2020 10:45:31 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.200; envelope-from=juri@linkov.net; helo=relay7-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -24 X-Spam_score: -2.5 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, GAPPY_SUBJECT=0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262021 Archived-At: > This has been discussed many times, and the most promising solution is > to add a single variable that will define whether the user prohibits > changing the definitions of traditional keys. When its value is nil, > then with a new release the user gets new keybindings that are more > logical and consistent with other keybindings and new functionality. > However, when you set it to t, then you get all old keybindings untouched. Or better to add a new theme that would restore the old values: (deftheme back-to-emacs-27) (define-key isearch-mode-map "\M-y" 'isearch-yank-kill) (setq read-char-choice-use-read-key t) (setq y-or-n-p-use-read-key t) ... Then if you don't want to revert all changes, it's easy to pick some of them and copy to the init file.