From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tomas Nordin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: finding stuff Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 12:09:34 +0100 Message-ID: <87zh0ya8wh.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87a6szjc81.fsf@logand.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3564"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Tomas Hlavaty To: Jean Louis , Bob Newell Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 24 12:10:14 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l3dHa-0000rV-L8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 12:10:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38636 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l3dHZ-0007x1-L4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 06:10:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40124) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l3dH6-0007wv-JV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 06:09:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:50679) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l3dH4-0003kL-9J for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 06:09:44 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 566872400FD for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 12:09:39 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1611486579; bh=LIn3IjFz4GF5BAOhlBBw84PPOdTE3fKUgzJTnInkFvY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=K5QIu0AFjyDTs0lgrBgiN3YS7ooYInYqxWS2yyVmuJKDTsFjzZuB//ilR+ZGYKPav op8gbbh3pffAduaXkmVRSYUImbvJ6ktnX0LOoUS9tLeqImgqS1Dw48ifLNDGEbS4aC VRV3FdEUpNP6YzzI/LqERLG7IJ9iXbWTVTT64xRfPsvEaRJ0/0DX1aA/ZSIcHrPkzy ON9zjkE2uNa8uPX8uf6ZAUk7FfND9cF4HzQDIeJss4j2JoVGYL6irVemWM2AsrbqD/ E90xwYUxyBtF/NfNLByxPM/O7SMEYlv6cY9XUk2b0TpqagqrwtquNGQ88ZiJFolBKr KAc+DdzUIr9HA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4DNqyR4wSwz6tmK; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 12:09:35 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=tomasn@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:127341 Archived-At: Jean Louis writes: > * Bob Newell [2021-01-24 08:34]: >> If I understand your needs correctly, 'apropos' will give you some of >> what you want. However it won't search the info files, news, etc. >> >> But actually for learning how to do something, web search really is >> the best option. > > For specific stuff the web search provides solutions. Maybe the stuff actually found typically is specific, but the search on the web is so general it must be hard to compete with. It has happened to me a number of times I search the web on some Emacs question, find links to the Emacs manual wich provide the answer and only by then understand I would have found it by a direct search in the manual. But there must be nothing wrong with this combination of searching the web and searching Emacs. Sometimes even if something is described in detail in the manual, it is faster or more convenient to see some user-written example on the web.