From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
To: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Make peg.el a built-in library?
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 08:25:57 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zgs8ege2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875yvafjr9.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Wed, 08 Sep 2021 21:36:10 -0700")
Bumping this up in case it slid off radars: I'd like to at least push
the documentation patch to peg.el...
On 09/08/21 21:36 PM, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
> On 08/26/21 08:34 AM, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>>
>>>> From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 11:52:00 -0700
>>>> Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
>>>>
>>>> In my on-again-off-again quest to not have to write text parsers myself,
>>>> I was pointed towards the PEG library (in ELPA), which does pretty much
>>>> exactly what I want (Parsing Expression Grammars).
>>>>
>>>> Would the maintainers consider moving this into Emacs proper? I ask
>>>> mostly because this would be very useful to have in Gnus, both to
>>>> replace the home-made parser in gnus-search.el, and I would hope to
>>>> parse eg IMAP server responses more fully and reliably.
>>>
>>> Fine with me, but please update the (outdated) Wiki page to say where
>>> the latest peg.el is, when it is imported.
>>
>> Will do. Stefan also asked me to make sure the library actually does
>> what I expect it to do, before making this move, so I'll write the code
>> first.
>
> Okay, I wrote some code: the "use-peg-in-gnus-search.diff" attachment is
> the result of that. It works really well! A net removal of ~100 LOC
> (obviously we're still in deficit with the addition of peg.el), it
> already fixes some wrong behavior of the old parser, and it's much
> easier to reason about and add new behavior to. It's the shiny
> declarative future I was looking forward to.
>
> Whether or not PEG gets added to core I'd like to propose some patches.
> The "peg-doc-patches.diff" attachment adds some documentation to the
> Commentary section, including an example grammar based on a
> much-simplified version of what gnus-search does.
>
> The peg-allow-symbols patch is more tentative. The issue is that _all_
> of the entry-points to peg code are macros, meaning you can't build your
> grammar up in a variable, and then pass that variable to any of
> `peg-run', `peg-parse', `with-peg-rules', etc. Nobody will evaluate the
> variable; you have to literally write the rules inside the
> `with-peg-rules' form. It seems like a fairly plausible use-case to
> store the rules in a variable or an option, even if you're not doing
> run-time manipulation of them. The only solution, as Adam found with
> org-ql, is to `eval' one of the macros.
>
> This doesn't seem necessary! The patch has `with-peg-rules' check if the
> rules are a symbol, and take the `symbol-value' if so. But I wonder if
> it wouldn't be nicer to break some of the code out: `peg-normalize'
> seems to be the entry-point for "compile this grammar", and that could
> be modified to work the way that some languages provide for pre-compiled
> regexps: a way to let the developer build and compile the grammar at
> load-time or launch-time, then feed the stored compiled version to
> parsing routines.
>
> `peg-parse' could be a function, or maybe it also could also just check
> if its argument is a symbol.
>
> I hope someone will have some thoughts on this!
>
> Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-19 15:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-25 18:52 Make peg.el a built-in library? Eric Abrahamsen
2021-08-26 6:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-26 15:34 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-09-09 4:36 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-09-19 15:25 ` Eric Abrahamsen [this message]
2021-09-30 19:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-30 20:34 ` Adam Porter
2021-10-01 8:14 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-10-01 18:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-01 18:40 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-10-02 3:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-02 7:32 ` Adam Porter
2021-10-02 14:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-02 15:13 ` Adam Porter
2021-08-26 17:02 ` Adam Porter
2021-08-26 17:25 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-08-27 3:17 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-08-27 6:41 ` Helmut Eller
2021-08-27 16:57 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-09-26 10:59 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-09-26 15:06 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-09-26 18:36 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-09-27 16:18 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-09-27 22:34 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-28 3:52 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-09-28 8:09 ` tomas
2021-09-28 9:32 ` Helmut Eller
2021-09-28 10:45 ` tomas
2021-09-28 15:24 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-09-30 6:04 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-01 3:27 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-10-09 1:31 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-10-09 5:28 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-10-09 8:12 ` Helmut Eller
2021-10-09 12:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-10 5:49 ` Helmut Eller
2021-10-14 10:25 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-10-09 12:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-09 16:47 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-10-10 4:20 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-10-10 21:40 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-10-13 2:58 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-10-09 16:49 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-10-10 3:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-10 4:46 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-10-10 5:58 ` Helmut Eller
2021-10-10 13:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-22 16:33 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-10-31 23:43 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-11-15 23:16 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-11-07 3:33 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-07 19:46 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-08 6:57 ` Helmut Eller
2022-11-08 8:51 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-10 4:04 ` Richard Stallman
2022-11-10 5:25 ` tomas
2022-11-10 8:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-10 8:29 ` tomas
2022-11-11 4:36 ` Richard Stallman
2022-11-08 8:47 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-08 16:18 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-08 19:08 ` tomas
2022-11-08 19:42 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-16 4:27 ` [PATCH] " Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-16 5:07 ` tomas
2022-11-16 5:39 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-16 15:53 ` tomas
2022-11-16 6:24 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-16 18:15 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-17 12:21 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-27 1:46 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-27 8:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-28 1:09 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-28 12:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-25 1:30 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2023-09-25 2:27 ` Adam Porter
2023-09-25 13:00 ` Alexander Adolf
2024-03-24 14:19 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-24 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-25 1:45 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2023-01-11 7:39 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-01-11 8:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-11 11:01 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-01-11 11:32 ` tomas
2023-02-05 12:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-05 15:41 ` Eduardo Ochs
2023-02-05 15:45 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-05 16:19 ` Eduardo Ochs
2023-02-05 16:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-09 5:44 ` Jean Louis
2023-02-06 0:33 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-11-08 14:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-08 14:42 ` tomas
2022-11-08 15:08 ` Visuwesh
2022-11-08 16:29 ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-12-02 20:20 ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-11-08 16:10 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-08 18:59 ` tomas
2022-11-08 19:42 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-08 22:03 ` Tim Cross
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