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In-Reply-To: <83k0j3oibd.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 26 Sep 2021 11:24:38 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:215575 Archived-At: On Sep 26 2021, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Stefan Kangas >> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2021 00:17:24 -0700 >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , rgm@gnu.org, 23033@debbugs.gnu.org, mgsloan@gmail.com >> >> > Perhaps they're combined auto-save and lock files? >> >> Something like that would be my guess. The name ".swp" suggests it's >> got more to do with auto-saving. >> >> But come to think of it, would it be possible for us to use one combined >> file? > > That'd complicate Emacs in non-trivial ways. Currently, the auto-save > file is just a snapshot of the file's buffer, and the lock file is a > specialized file whose content tells us who and when locked it. To > put both of these in the same file would mean the file will need > parsing. Does it really make sense to do that? There is also auto-save-visited-mode, which would conflict with that. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different."