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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284144 Archived-At: Robert Pluim writes: > Plenty of people also object to Emacs writing stuff to their init file > by default. I know that, mostly because I'm one of the people who object. What I'm saying is that the status quo seems to have kept people reasonably happy for a long time, so there isn't a reason to change it. There will also be people who object to the new default, and in 15 years there might even be a proposal to change the default back to the init file, and things will start becoming confusing then. > Of course, then we=CA=BCd have to add "(load custom-file)" to .emacs, so > people might still object :-) Indeed. Thanks.