From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60460: 30.0.50; [FR] avoid putting remote files to local trash Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2023 10:20:08 +0100 Message-ID: <87zgat1iyf.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87358tfglk.fsf@gmx.de> <87mt71dxhf.fsf@gmx.de> <87ilhoeqlf.fsf@gmx.de> <87bkngdmxd.fsf@gmx.de> <878rie33zj.fsf@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30937"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Ruijie Yu , Eli Zaretskii , 60460@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 08 10:21:15 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pERrf-0007pQ-8i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Sun, 08 Jan 2023 10:20:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Jean Louis's message of "Sun, 8 Jan 2023 03:37:44 +0300") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:AYu0XRfWwL/aN04tE37nFMfCK++ZJPQ96OfU+9hb+VV54F6UNTi ywWHHChbWt87ZLWgpKAMpEcO2PQ4cMigu4QZV7A29YO2NpJcSVQk7JEPp5O+VPjJSXnhQyK CZ0lbPNES7nQdeyOh7zuLobOr50Is6UXJ8nBHYJqfYJBxpZYC8MRCm6leVHbhkjPXcLoRWj R7ZGLPs6eiAbim2FB2pKQ== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:4yhUnnpI1Xo=;2tjDG8GqMSf66orEH1NQE3UpPIP S5C+DHfOxkZwWa90gi7zjogtFBf2Q/F9T7KZMjGCbh3CMu7pOMzKq+H1bj4JsyAS0EkQsMrw0 QZGFQE5mbZBCPQ8K2vDvlFm+iinEQOqUkRH49bTWRIabeeOVMvANP6dZUX15zJvkKrt3mrHCa u6NLLxLeRV/6zDDbLBHPvhkbZ5ov5G0GVKoJR/GQh4BX5sLJVsemC4XtTjXj001OErWL87ALx +4gdcZn1Qq8x0/xJ0ORvcLvxaxchai0WwUQmhdlftQwz238fSSM1NLXam4XRUoi9RlhuTU5Co +NfZz05c1fSUj+lmopAsJtmPQAe/eiDLj8i6awMVnfy1C3YsnqXeTwkvotAk8+riniGxziC33 ivEecK3WwzIH2PN8FwMTthxFm27KOrAMTW7anEyJetPtpJcw0hg45TblDSDnAQD1r/2Kp0iL7 No1Ihgllz5+gO0X2gjofgOIemg2hC1QkuAMvyjjXMCYp24dK48hhK2/j3pDWxYtETpUqYwSRZ feqLrc0FLVRg3KCQgLKM5FWOiJWJsycpAMowHgnOEkkXgQhL14t0XvmQABltxtmrjJLkGj9bu bQN3mfMkMtFL+Q/a0Uk/9lLEpxJlj1zZrPpD+ERBGjXq4vrFjqs4DIeXRbQA2WflMo5YJ1Uy2 QLT/Ifu77atnQiKEvC/hoBy0/5z3fsnJVHdOQxyHPzte/K7G8qWCw2IFPitAbv1+D4sG3RyH/ XGOPVz5LNWw69Es1SH2aRyirIE5Id4OGElglEOba9DtMUm0zFQn/jr9XB6z5lq/2vdox5DKV X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:252889 Archived-At: Jean Louis writes: Hi Jean, > * Michael Albinus [2023-01-07 15:51]: >> > We could lock this proposed change behind a flag to retain backward >> > compatibility for those who still prefer to trash remote files by moving >> > them into local trash directory. Regardless, the behavior before and >> > after the change for local files should remain the same. >> >> We've used this approach in Emacs 27 (Tramp 2.4), but it wasn't robust >> enough. So this was removed from Tramp, knowing that users could define >> their own `system-move-file-to-trash'. > > Eli said that is not for users to define, as those functions are > defined by developers on Mac OS or Windows, and are not the way for > users to customize their Emacs. Right, it is not the recommended way (and the Tramp doc doesn't mention it). The recommended way for remote files are connection-local variables. Best regards, Michael.