From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Resources for an old newbie ? Date: Sun, 28 May 2023 04:12:39 +0200 Message-ID: <87zg5p5hm0.fsf@web.de> References: <0e037ca2-517d-3b52-2187-a7bba7956fbd@starynkevitch.net> <87353ndhzg.fsf@web.de> <871qj7397n.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87ilch19ub.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87cz2nvk51.fsf@web.de> <87v8gfybhv.fsf@robbyzambito.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20771"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:B4j8jhGTUz8dg6b4n4tfXPLt7/s= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 28 04:13:31 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q35uV-0005Ed-F3 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 28 May 2023 04:13:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q35ts-00023d-DW; Sat, 27 May 2023 22:12:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q35tr-00023Q-LG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 May 2023 22:12:51 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q35tq-0006u2-26 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 May 2023 22:12:51 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q35tm-0004Tk-LR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 May 2023 04:12:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:143773 Archived-At: David Masterson writes: > Questions: > * Can I get details about the Emacs package from snap, flathub, & guix? > * Particularly, can I find out the Emacs package dependencies? > * If Emacs uses Gtk, do these commands pull in Gtk as well? I only can say something about the flathub package I have installed: https://flathub.org/apps/org.gnu.emacs It greets as: | This is GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version | 3.24.35, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2022-12-09 | Copyright (C) 2022 Free Software Foundation, Inc. It doesn't seem to have installed any gtk package (I have none installed with flathub), but I'm not sure how to view the dependencies. But let me also say that building Emacs yourself in Debian stable is indeed nearly trivial: I'm very ignorant about such stuff, and after installing the dependencies once (which was not a big problem, others have explained what's to do), AFAIR I never again had to care about them, or extremely rarely (when a fundamentally new feature had been introduced, like jit-compiling or how images are supported or so). Updating your OS as often as you would do anyway is good enough. Michael.