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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 46703b509e010298e8d06ee4d7604438; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 00:34:21 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83f64da10b4dd80c3af1@heytings.org> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Sun, 18 Jun 2023 22:53:24 +0000") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21557 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.186.148; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic302-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307021 Archived-At: Gregory Heytings writes: > A request to add a Chinese input method for Termux:X11 can be found at > https://github.com/termux/termux-x11/issues/147, it was closed three > months ago, after the person who filed the request said, after testing > the feature, that "it works perfectly". The last follow-up in that thread is an image displaying a Chinese input method, with the composition functionality disabled, captioned ``a sad story''. Instead of making these statements, why not try yourself, as I have? With Trime or Fcitx? > BTW, as you know Emacs has no less than 25 built-in input methods for > Chinese, which only require a keyboard with alphanumeric characters. These input methods are inferior to other free input methods available on X and Android. I don't expect you to understand, seeing as you don't write Chinese text. > What do you mean? That page indicates that you can tap and swipe > (with which you can scroll vertically or horizontally). Swiping with two fingers is not convenient and conflicts with dragging to select text. And, if I wanted editor modes, I wouldn't be using Emacs. > What does that mean in practice? Two hours ago someone said in this > thread "I love using emacs through termux", so how can you claim that > it is "unusable", "completely inadequate" and "bad"? It means that you are able to directly open files from an Android FTP client in Emacs. > That points to a possible improvement of Termux, not to a "complete > inadequacy of their port". It doesn't matter. Right now, it is far from a substitute for the Android port. >From the tone of your writing (not only here, also from your other interactions, over the past several months), I'm beginning to suspect that you have personal problems with me, and are deliberately trying to mislead those who read this thread with irrelevant information. So unless you actually use Android, the various Emacsen that are capable of running there, and a good understanding of the code within the feature/android branch, please stay out of this thread. This is the last follow-up I will post in response to you.