From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Shrinking the C core Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2023 03:06:57 +0200 Message-ID: <87zg1wgnny.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <87ledwx7sh.fsf@yahoo.com> <877cpfybhf.fsf@yahoo.com> <873503y66i.fsf@yahoo.com> <87fs3ur9u8.fsf@dataswamp.org> <875y4moiiq.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87r0namn6t.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87sf7qqttk.fsf@localhost> <87lediml74.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87sf7qpbjr.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6880"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:fLdzJj+briL5mXuqj3tciwi+TCA= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 09 08:05:40 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qer6B-0001Vg-PW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2023 08:05:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qer5e-0000wc-5Q; Sat, 09 Sep 2023 02:05:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qemRK-0005Yu-JH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 21:07:10 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qemRI-00054E-8u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 21:07:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qemRG-0005xf-6G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2023 03:07:06 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 09 Sep 2023 02:05:01 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310381 Archived-At: Ihor Radchenko wrote: > When such "mini-languages" are used too much, without > a clear need, people not familiar with CL conventions will > have harder time to read the Emacs source code - increased > entry barrier for contribution. If it is used in a bad way, like everything else used in a bad way, it is bad. But used in a good way it adds tons of expressive power to our Elisp! Stefan Monnier, they don't belive me. Regardless of whatever else has been said and done, you tell them how awesome Elisp CL is. Maybe it will land that way? But it is true anyway. https://dataswamp.org/~incal/vidz/misc/gaia-tuvan-sliced.webm -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal