From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Permanently fix org versioning breakage during builds? Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 16:59:11 +0000 Message-ID: <87zfxz35b4.fsf@localhost> References: <25989.50971.995591.385250@google.com> <87a5q0dc9m.fsf@localhost> <87y1djc1c9.fsf@localhost> <87zfxzdbna.fsf@yahoo.com> <87plyv7oii.fsf@localhost> <8734vr4prv.fsf@localhost> <835y0nd4ut.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40767"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, luangruo@yahoo.com, raman@google.com, joaotavora@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 24 17:56:38 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rHRmI-000ANM-Cj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 17:56:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rHRlq-0006Mc-A3; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 11:56:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rHRlo-0006MJ-82 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 11:56:08 -0500 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rHRll-0000Ec-6B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 11:56:06 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68C50240101 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 17:56:03 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1703436963; bh=yEHzgpm8cyK1sVBRH2fpcsHfUa4BxSHQizN9kUMjPCo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=LfKhVXZ9G3B25fE0HDKmA0l/bbt8r8rShkYLoqTQWm+y+90Kz9oBZDFMydd5tZPGO aeC1KLJoK1q5/dX9IYPZFXQUQwaGs30H1oEhy8a2YSKuKtL2vHxsvJ+fcavu1kFpOJ WxhSGt1i45Qbek+aG1KbvLf8VXGJyBADpR1XfWt74Q8oPTBRZ3c4pOuL4Oo3ryv+1M EZSZhb6eiervEwYRZhhBF03L/1mGhnfggBXz4xwAGBMb0lfhwZYiJUqR++wOq/e4/I 7CQ38ZzfFrRlj/dqpK62a5qcsE11JVUEoGV1OuaGfk+fPER55U5tJOqHK2B87slony oPaOaCokVhT8g== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4SynH64lpNz9rxG; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 17:56:02 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <835y0nd4ut.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -53 X-Spam_score: -5.4 X-Spam_bar: ----- X-Spam_report: (-5.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314144 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Org mode may break in unexpected ways due to stale .elc that did not >> update their macro expansions. > > Yes. That could happen even as part of the build, if the manuals > whose sources are *.org files need to be rebuilt. > > But such breakage happens at times anyway, when some macros change in > incompatible ways and files that have the old versions of those macros > compiled into them are not recompiled. It isn't anything new for > people who regularly update from Git and rebuild Emacs. The main problem is that with org-assert-version, "from time to time" becomes more frequent as the breakage is guaranteed every time a new version of Org is installed into Emacs tree. Since we release a new minor Org version every few weeks, the breakage happens every few weeks. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at