From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Software/HD ecology Date: 22 Dec 2002 11:54:22 +0900 Organization: Global Online Japan Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87y96iwyox.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> References: <041220020952400758%ajanta@no.spam> <071220021155280606%ajanta@no.spam> <101220021125583826%ajanta@no.spam> <111220021253524057%ajanta@no.spam> <5l65u0i8zj.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <84k7ifo3s2.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <121220021324043990%ajanta@no.spam> <171220021132381961%ajanta@no.spam> <3DFFA457.1020103@rcn.com> <844r9b3exh.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <87y96m3xhg.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> <1mr8ceoypu.fsf@Tempo.Update.UU.SE> <87wum4w7nj.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> <1mfzsrblka.fsf@Tempo.Update.UU.SE> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1040525823 17478 80.91.224.249 (22 Dec 2002 02:57:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 02:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18PwI1-0004Wy-00 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 03:56:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18PwGx-0006aw-05 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 21:55:23 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.gol.com!203.216.70.8.MISMATCH!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.text.tex,gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 25 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: tc-2-226.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp Original-X-Trace: nnrp.gol.com 1040525663 7656 203.216.25.226 (22 Dec 2002 02:54:23 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@gol.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 02:54:23 +0000 (UTC) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu comp.sys.mac.apps:349508 gnu.emacs.help:108414 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:4943 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:4943 Fredrik Staxeng writes: > Perhaps I have not made the mechanism clear. The idea was the makefile > calls "gnu-install package version file dest", instead of install.sh > or BSD install. This is a simple extension of what is already done > today. No, it's completely obvious what you meant; it's just that you're over-specifying. Such implementation details are up to the package maintainers. Similarly, the coding standards _don't_ say `you should use autoconf to make a configure script' (even though that's certainly one of the best ways to do it, and how it's almost always done), they just say `you should have a configure script.' > I would like to be able to force packages to use a tool that I trust. > If it is easy enough to do, I would implement support for it and send > patches to the maintainer. If you personally don't want to trust anything that doesn't use a `gnu-install' script, you're free to only use packages that do. -Miles -- "1971 pickup truck; will trade for guns"