From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alex Schroeder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: compilation-goto-locus, pop-up-windows, same-window-regexps Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 21:41:32 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87y934bipv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87vfyjbnhr.fsf@gnu.org> <87d6kqfj72.fsf@gnu.org> <87smtly24a.fsf@gnu.org> <87vfycib7k.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1048538605 10036 80.91.224.249 (24 Mar 2003 20:43:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 20:43:25 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 24 21:43:23 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18xYmx-0002bh-00 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 21:43:23 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18xYna-0004Ir-00 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 21:44:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18xYmf-0000Gq-01 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:43:05 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18xYmJ-00007X-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:42:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18xYlm-0008AS-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:42:13 -0500 Original-Received: from isp247n.hispeed.ch ([62.2.95.247] helo=smtp.hispeed.ch) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.10.13) id 18xYlC-0007iu-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:41:34 -0500 Original-Received: from confusibombus.gnu.org (dclient217-162-238-57.hispeed.ch [217.162.238.57])h2OKfW2H021054 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 21:41:32 +0100 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAG1BMVEX///89Pjl6hX25yeD/ 373gtJdgTEW6a14sduMzR7J4AAAAAXRSTlMAQObYZgAAAeJJREFUeNp1lMGSmzAMhvMKolOaa5wB cg3p5gGy8va8xCZn0658LlPg3Bw6PHZlArbZ2XUOJHz+f1mylM3pk7UJX8t/zf4DUOYAlJJnHuyA ARgCIVagNLCsZA0grMkuBrQQ5/aRAtII7GIA+f4TAM11AWYN4OcMntwPiuh+E2I3Q0GUphNNF3Di /UU2DD29UzxB2rZZpat+8iQKVkmRaV7VtJ988BPYttMaUebrU5XQuP0KsTJrkAoHkEH+DnQzmCVf PJiskL3kbq0goW996zR1DLhWqb0RtBniS5ygK2Jy6/lsCl8M57FU1135V6xTOyi8pDYDfx85mF+o h46DXKj7QQsoBdEflC5DvGRKZl4hsp5fToAfOlytEAPOCn6qAIqiUVJ2DJRTBnAuLGd+69Alj/Ia QG8s6dubcgJVBkVJ9I3rOExBpIgURG9aYuWKJesmKE5Edpjy49B5E81Hbsg+7hDxdxKBM1vNV/Vs ksiqtFxA5cD3V4itarKt5sPK51cDIjouWO4rKZE7y8A9gCM0mVaSo5ir2R68FTc194l7XycCxoNX HF23Z7oSBYkdHILVY4yaPDdJ9Xc7enD0Y2mSHMZxvM/AjxIBg/soZnD2fwrcXrBlhXiAZYweQzje +XP6D3vk9qXUjAFlAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 23 Mar 2003 21:05:18 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090016 (Oort Gnus v0.16) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12579 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12579 Richard Stallman writes: > We cannot tell this by asking the small number of people on this list. > It would be necessary to conduct a poll. I agree. I'd prefer it if we find a solution that does not require a poll. :) > Personally, I only need one new variable, and I'd probably like it for > *all* situations: (and pop-up-windows important-pop-up-windows). I > would like to add such a new variable to Emacs, and use it wherever > pop-up-windows is bound to t at the moment. > > This can't hurt, so perhaps this is the best way. Good. Stefan Monnier writes: > It's going to change a lot of code, so it had better be a good > solution rather than a quick fix. > What's is an "important" pop-up-window ? I have no idea. Personally, I think that pop-up-windows should have top priority and that elisp authors should never override it. If we assume that some people will set both pop-up-windows and important-pop-up-windows to nil, then these people will start complaining about sub-optimal user interfaces anyway, and some of these places will get even more fixes, to be honest. The pragmatic approach, however, is this: I suggest that all the places where somebody else decided to bind pop-up-windows to t are considered "important" because at least one person considered it important enough to write extra code. With this approach, people that have set pop-up-windows to nil and like the current approach are not disturbed, while people like me are a bit better off, eventhough further changes will be desirable for some of these places. Alex.