From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bug, probably related to Custom Themes. Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:19:28 -0500 Message-ID: <87y82b5dpr.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <200512210254.jBL2sj814876@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87d5jqrvuo.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200512212219.jBLMJ3R29494@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87lkydx021.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200512220351.jBM3pvX02615@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <8764phpyvf.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200512230029.jBN0TgT16314@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <1135392570.183714.29626.nullmailer@Update.UU.SE> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1135397991 14862 80.91.229.2 (24 Dec 2005 04:19:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 04:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: teirllm@dms.auburn.edu, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 24 05:19:50 2005 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eq0sf-0005Hm-A6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 05:19:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eq0tk-0001F7-0u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:20:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Eq0ta-0001F2-LL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:20:38 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Eq0ta-0001Ep-3r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:20:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eq0tZ-0001Em-Vh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:20:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [18.95.6.18] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Eq0sx-0001oY-Uz; Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:20:00 -0500 Original-Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AD7411E42EA; Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:19:28 -0500 (EST) Original-To: ams@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <1135392570.183714.29626.nullmailer@Update.UU.SE> (Alfred M. Szmidt's message of "Sat, 24 Dec 2005 03:49:30 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:48293 Archived-At: "Alfred M. Szmidt" writes: > "Reset" sounds like a counterpart to "set", and thus > changing only the current values, not the saved values. > I think "Erase Customizations" is clearer, because it says that > the commnd gets rid of your existing customizations. > > I also think that `Erase Customization' is a bit confusing, but `Reset > Customization' is equally confusing I think. How about `Revert > Customization' which says that the existing values get removed, and > reverted to whatever was the setting when they weren't set? Why not "Revert to Defaults"? That seems to be the canonical phrase. My personal opinion is that the "Set for Current Session" and "Reset to Current" buttons are superfluous. Most other programs don't provide a separate "set but don't save" command, and it's unneccessary. It took me a while to realize what all those Customize buttons were supposed to do, and it would probably be worse for newbies. If we eliminate "Set for Current Session" and "Reset to Current", the interface would be much cleaner: [Cancel Changes] [Save Changes] [Reset to Defaults] [Finish]