From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Zajcev Evgeny Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs as the desktop? Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:09:55 +0300 Organization: Home Message-ID: <87y7znekb0.fsf@yandex.ru> References: <1141324201.426797.258020@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1141687779 13158 80.91.229.2 (6 Mar 2006 23:29:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 23:29:39 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 07 00:29:39 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FGP8p-0001oo-Sp for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 00:29:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FGP8o-00022I-Tc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 18:29:26 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!image.surnet.ru!mtu.ru!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 36 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp83-237-210-177.pppoe.mtu-net.ru Original-X-Trace: gavrilo.mtu.ru 1141654196 91332 83.237.210.177 (6 Mar 2006 14:09:56 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@mtu.ru Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 14:09:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Face: $(owZ\7*#)Hx~5c3|&]tSe{TK}f(Fs~O/(=#U:?-c@rf7"4&`l!@%UQpAHqU6uE.P~rw`VrBoN?p@Z9+P.I8z+#R^h3(zLk&SO5F=l|A User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) SXEmacs/22.1.4 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:m8IPVskByDQJGcpmNG5omuIlb3g= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:137972 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:33599 Archived-At: William Xu writes: > "gamename" writes: > >> I normally run emacs inside a vnc session with "blackbox" and the >> desktop manager. Is there any way to simply use Emacs as the desktop >> manager instead? > > I found this, http://www.nongnu.org/xwem/, but only for XEmacs. I > haven't tried it myself, as i don't use XEmacs. That is pretty dead link, xwem now hosting separately at http://www.xwem.org xwem runs only under XEmacs and SXEmacs, there was plans porting xwem to GNU Emacs, however there was no volunteers to do the job. However i suspect serious fundamental problems in porting. Some time ago i wrote about it to Kim Storm: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2005-04/msg00136.html If someone really interested in trying to port xwem to GNU Emacs i will provide help as much as needed! As to xwem itself, it is extremely ergonomic and powerfull Desktop for Emacsen .. Main problem why xwem is not widely used is total lack of documentation, however xwem team is very friendly to new users If you are seriously consider making xwem be your desktop also consider SXEmacs. Its FFI feature in conjunction with upcoming xlib-ffi for SXEmacs will make xwem run 10-100 times faster then with native xlib written in Emacs lisp -- lg