From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: michael@cadilhac.name (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Micha=EBl?= Cadilhac) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: defcustom and the stars. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:64808 Archived-At: --===============1602714311== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Drew Adams" writes: > Hi Michael, > >> Please, do not remove me from the list of Cc as I don't scrupulously >> read Emacs Devel usually. > > OK; sorry about that. I know I don't like getting two copies of everythin= g, > so I tend to think others too might want just the list copy. I realize th= is > is an incorrect assumption. In fact, I read e-devel through GMane and quickly kill the threads I take part in. >> > Yes. Here is a doc string I have, for instance. >> > "**Completions* window is removed if fewer chars than this are input." >> >> I don't see your point. Maybe this has been discussed with Juanma, but >> what's the harm removing the first * ? > > The doc string that the user sees then reads "Completions* window...", wh= ich > is not good - the text should say *Completions*. There must be a misunderstanding here. (defvar foo nil "**scratch* me I'm famous.") with the change I proposed now shows ,----[ C-h v foo RET ] | foo is a variable defined in `~/etc/emacs.d/gnus/News/drafts/drafts/13'. | Its value is nil |=20 |=20 | Documentation: | *scratch* me I'm famous. |=20 | You can change this variable using `set-variable'. `---- Only "^\*" is deleted, not "^\**". >> > Why not just leave any extra `*' there? >> >> Because it's confusing and somewhat useless for the user. > > The user doesn't see the first `*'. How is it confusing to the user? Okey, there must be another strong misunderstanding here :-) $ emacs -Q C-h v show-paren-highlight-openparen RET ,----[ C-h v show-paren-highlight-openparen RET ] | show-paren-highlight-openparen is a variable defined in `paren.el'. | Its value is t |=20 |=20 | Documentation: | *Non-nil turns on openparen highlighting when matching forward. `---- ^ Here, there's the useless star. And the user sees it. >> What about =AB You can change this variable using `set-variable' =BB with >> a link on =AB change =BB ? > > Yes, that's OK by me. > (Though it's really the value that is changed...) =AB You can change variable's value using `set-variable' =BB ? =2D-=20 | Micha=EBl `Micha' Cadilhac | Un certain Blaise Pascal = | | Epita/LRDE Promo 2007 | etc... etc... = | | http://michael.cadilhac.name | -- Pr=E9vert (Les paris stupides) = | `--JID: michael.cadilhac@gmail.com--' - = --' --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFnfICUJhDmOfFA3URAhpFAJkBw5hWf4W1S+sqkWxclMj+JR69jQCgv84m KjbqhwdcOz584Kp48+Jh1gY= =h65O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- --===============1602714311== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel --===============1602714311==--