From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How old are Emacs users? Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 09:23:01 +0200 Organization: University Koblenz-Landau Campus Koblenz Message-ID: <87y7ki9qy2.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1177403812 25567 80.91.229.12 (24 Apr 2007 08:36:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 08:36:52 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 24 10:36:49 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HgGW0-0005FR-W7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 10:36:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HgGbV-0007J4-5j for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 04:42:29 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.ision.net!newsfeed2.easynews.net!ision!news.belwue.de!news.uni-kl.de!cache.uni-koblenz.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 28 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: dslb-084-063-006-002.pools.arcor-ip.net Original-X-Trace: cache.uni-koblenz.de 1177399382 5027 84.63.6.2 (24 Apr 2007 07:23:02 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: news@cache.uni-koblenz.de Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:23:02 +0000 (UTC) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAD1BMVEW2mhnYvEn26qD+/vbC t5CEWCLiAAAACXBIWXMAAAsSAAALEgHS3X78AAAATnRFWHRSYXcgcHJvZmlsZSB0eXBlIGV4aWYA CmV4aWYKICAgICAgMjAKNDU3ODY5NjYwMDAwNGQ0ZDAwMmEwMDAwMDAwODAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMAqJ uBZbAAAACXZwQWcAAAAwAAAAMADO7oxXAAABkElEQVQ4y3WTDZLCIAyFQ08A6AFK0gNowgG6de9/ pn2Bau22ZRyF+ZKXX8lOjqZs1K9i+gUmStKAxmzTsjlECtwBEUfKb1CJKDvQkfwEWUFZCsD0shpi I8MbZAWoQWNI+KS3S2VhACaolwSAXzGkUD0ok7q4liwID4vFJAGEG1DIorDV4pGmXBCKka7GJPb0 ItwlIMHsHkJQMftlPKQQIVDA+wmAXgi70pg5pTyiGwC5t2SCw0LBOHNJ3oDH2sQf2CciETXNMLKx A82IhtCtbV6kQsJfT+aYuJB8+jtIA/OQiK3QNpDUgZeMtDYA7QZQl0fsUn6rK4heE+I36+WFvnMH paVobYJ6l5Ztr0M+IlgQr0vMvlKRPj0X5R1oDuXmXnICpDV9B6ooeugX//oCs2ry8dlzDyCASd2O HtNg2CC/jbwDMybYd24PoMSx8HugG3gMUoZtIhuYuRV3ANXX8XUCvIBRjkDjDStgR1CD/PuDrmDM dg7i6xwclVZQDkoriHwB7nYBlgugcgXsSurk/AEJvb3wF7X09QAAABp6VFh0anBlZzpjb2xvcnNw YWNlAAB42jMCAAAzADOJOCM1AAAAJnpUWHRqcGVnOnNhbXBsaW5nLWZhY3RvcgAAeNozqjDSMaww BGEAEYMC6T2XL08AAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.98 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:2Rqtg0fLJix3vgvcjHd7qVmiDyw= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:147444 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43048 Archived-At: 30ish emacs user writes: Hi, > I haven't seen code collapsing displayed like this in emacs: > > http://www.dream-com.com/images/editor/codecollapse.bmp > > It can probably be emulated with images of course to an extent, but > it's not the same as simply drawing a vertical pixel line. Although I cannot see the picture (I'm currently logged in at home via ssh. Another point for emacs!), I do know what you mean. Or take KDE's diff tool kompare. Instead of inserting empty lines in file A's display if parts of file B have to be inserted there, it renders nice Bézier curves directly on the canvas to indicate where the parts of B have to be inserted. And as you said, folded/collapsed/outlined text would be much better indicated with a vertical pixel line than with the three dots emacs appends to the text before. That's simply not eye-catching enough. Bye, Tassilo -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. (Richard M. Stallman)