Re: gmail and gnus

[William Xu <william.xwl@gmail.com>]

Hadron <hadronquark@gmail.com> writes:

>> Unfortunately, gmail doesn't do IMAP:
>> https://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=10339 but there
>> are some workarounds I'll look into (google "gmail imap" without the
>> quotes).
>>
>> Cheers, and thanks to all for the kick in the pants to get back to
>> gnus -
>
> Why use IMAP? You can access using pop3. Works for me. You are probably
> better off in gnu.emacs.gnus

gmail pop3 is somehow doing some evil. It will randomly resist
downloading some mails. This has pissed me off many times !  I first
thought this might be fetchmail's problem, so i try switching to
`getmail'. Then, from getmail i found there's a FAQ entry just talking
about this issue:

,----[ getmail doesn't download all my mail from Gmail … ]
| There's a couple of different problems here. One is that Google's Gmail
| service violates the POP3 protocol by removing messages from the POP3
| view of the mailbox without the user issuing a DELE command. They do
| this as soon as an RETR command is given, so if getmail tries to
| download a message and it fails for any reason (delivery fails due to a
| full disk, or the Gmail server fails to respond, or the network
| connection dies before the transfer is complete, or the Gmail server
| fails to respond to the QUIT command, or …), the next time getmail
| connects to that Gmail account, Gmail will have "helpfully" deleted the
| message from the POP3 mailbox, even though getmail never issued a DELE
| command. So Gmail silently destroys mail, from a POP3
| perspective. There's nothing getmail can do about this.
| 
| Note this feature of Gmail is not well-publicized. The only
| mention I can find of it is here:
| 
| http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13291&topic=1555
| 
| The other issue here is that Google doesn't include mail from your trash
| or spam folders in the POP3 view, so getmail can't see those messages
| either. That's generally less of an issue, provided their spam filters
| never give false positive results (ha!).
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