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From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: karl@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable in Elisp manualindex]
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 01:34:22 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y7j2ugsx.fsf@jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1HuJkg-0005LO-Rm@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri\, 01 Jun 2007 22\:54\:02 -0400")

> In the long term, we could redesign Info format.  However, such a change
> takes years to put into place.
>
> Instead of doing this, perhaps it would be better to replace the format
> with a completely new format.
>
> I wonder if we could use some limited subset of HTML, so that Emacs
> could display it even though it doesn't really understand HTML.
> Meanwhile, any browser could also display it, and standalone Info
> could be a variant of a browser.

I think the best format for the Emacs Info reader is Texinfo XML.
Makeinfo already has the option `--xml' that generates output files in
Texinfo XML.  This format just maps Texinfo elements onto XML in an
easily readable and unambiguous way, thus preserving all Texinfo markup from
the source Texinfo files to the Info reader.

However, with all its advantages I doubt that this format will replace
the old plain Info format soon.  But in the long term, perhaps, yes.
The main obstacle to adopting this format is the lack of its support
in the Emacs Info reader.  Recently I started writing a package
that provides it.  I'll post code later to this list for review
in a separate mail.

-- 
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-02 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 212+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-26  0:19 [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable in Elisp manual index] Richard Stallman
2007-05-26  6:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-29  4:01   ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable in Elisp manualindex] Drew Adams
2007-05-29 19:12     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-29 20:05       ` Stephen Berman
2007-05-29 20:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-29 21:20           ` Stephen Berman
2007-05-29 21:25         ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable in Elispmanualindex] Drew Adams
2007-05-29 21:03       ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable in Elisp manualindex] Drew Adams
2007-05-30  3:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-30  4:43           ` Drew Adams
2007-05-30  5:26             ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable in Elispmanualindex] Drew Adams
2007-05-30 15:17             ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable in Elisp manualindex] Johan Bockgård
2007-05-30 23:09               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-30  5:23           ` David Kastrup
2007-05-30 23:01             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-30 23:14               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-02  2:54     ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-02  9:18       ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-02 17:29         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-02 10:12       ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-06-02 17:29         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-02 23:47           ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-06-03 21:27             ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-02 10:18       ` Alan Mackenzie
2007-06-02 14:36         ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable in Elispmanualindex] Drew Adams
2007-06-02 17:26         ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable in Elisp manualindex] Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-02 23:47           ` Alan Mackenzie
2007-06-02 23:48             ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-02 17:29         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-02 18:10           ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable in Elispmanualindex] Drew Adams
2007-06-03 21:27             ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-04  5:30               ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable inElispmanualindex] Drew Adams
2007-06-02 23:01           ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable in Elisp manualindex] Miles Bader
2007-06-03  0:00           ` Karl Berry
2007-06-03 21:27             ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-03 22:52               ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-03 23:55                 ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable in Elispmanualindex] Drew Adams
2007-06-04  5:01                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-04  5:42                     ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable inElispmanualindex] Drew Adams
2007-06-04 23:20                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-05  0:10                         ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enableinElispmanualindex] Drew Adams
2007-06-06  0:50                   ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable in Elispmanualindex] Stefan Monnier
2007-06-06  2:12                     ` Drew Adams
2007-06-06 12:26                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-06 13:54                         ` Drew Adams
2007-06-06 15:06                           ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable inElispmanualindex] Drew Adams
2007-06-06 18:44                             ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-06 20:01                               ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-06 20:51                                 ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-06 21:18                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-06 22:01                                     ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-06 22:24                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-06 22:40                                         ` Karl Berry
2007-06-07 12:37                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-07 22:22                                             ` Karl Berry
2007-06-08  1:00                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-08  2:28                                                 ` Karl Berry
2007-06-08  6:58                                                   ` csant
2007-06-08 15:42                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-08  7:12                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-08  8:34                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-06 22:04                                     ` Karl Berry
2007-06-08  7:11                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-08  8:32                                 ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-08 15:46                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-08 15:52                                   ` propose adding Icicles to Emacs Drew Adams
2007-06-10 13:19                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-10 17:16                                       ` Drew Adams
2007-06-10 18:22                                         ` Sean O'Rourke
2007-06-11  0:09                                           ` Drew Adams
2007-06-11  9:44                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-11 18:33                                           ` Drew Adams
2007-06-11 19:17                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-11 20:53                                               ` Drew Adams
2007-06-11 21:46                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-11 23:21                                                   ` Drew Adams
2007-06-13  8:06                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-14  7:48                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-14 15:51                                                   ` Drew Adams
2007-06-14 16:07                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-15  0:39                                                       ` Drew Adams
2007-06-15 19:22                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-15 21:04                                                           ` Drew Adams
2007-06-16 18:51                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-16 18:51                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-16 18:51                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-16 20:53                                                           ` Drew Adams
2007-06-17  8:54                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-17 18:48                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-17 20:39                                                             ` Drew Adams
2007-06-17 21:18                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-17 23:07                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-18 21:17                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-18 23:31                                                                     ` Drew Adams
2007-06-19  8:16                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-19 14:47                                                                         ` Drew Adams
2007-06-18 14:56                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-19 22:26                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-20  6:46                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-28  2:41                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-28 15:47                                                                     ` Drew Adams
2007-06-28 19:25                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-28 20:03                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-29  5:10                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-18 21:31                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-19  3:52                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-19 22:26                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-19 23:11                                                                     ` Drew Adams
2007-06-20  1:19                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-19 22:47                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2007-06-19 23:15                                                                     ` Drew Adams
2007-06-20 14:19                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-20 15:13                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2007-06-20 15:13                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-20 15:34                                                                         ` Drew Adams
2007-06-20 15:50                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-20 16:02                                                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-20 16:38                                                                             ` Drew Adams
2007-06-20 17:28                                                                               ` Drew Adams
2007-06-20 17:51                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-21  1:07                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-19 22:48                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-20 17:36                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-16 18:51                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-16 19:58                                                           ` Drew Adams
2007-06-16 18:51                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-16 22:36                                                           ` Drew Adams
2007-06-17 21:49                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-16 18:51                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-16 22:29                                                           ` Drew Adams
2007-06-17 21:48                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-17 22:18                                                               ` Drew Adams
2007-06-18 16:15                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-25 13:19                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-25 14:57                                                                     ` Drew Adams
2007-06-25 19:52                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-25 21:40                                                                         ` Drew Adams
2007-06-26 16:57                                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-26 17:36                                                                             ` Drew Adams
2007-07-01 20:40                                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-01 21:54                                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-07-02 19:47                                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-02 22:19                                                                                     ` Drew Adams
2007-07-03  4:24                                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-03  7:56                                                                                         ` Drew Adams
2007-07-04  3:43                                                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-04  6:13                                                                                             ` Drew Adams
2007-06-25 20:47                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-21 18:35                                                                 ` Davis Herring
2007-06-21 18:39                                                                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-21 20:42                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2007-06-21 22:27                                                                     ` Davis Herring
2007-06-22  0:20                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2007-06-24 14:40                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-15  8:48                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-15 13:23                                                       ` Drew Adams
2007-06-15 22:45                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-13 16:21                                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-13 16:22                                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-13 19:00                                               ` Drew Adams
2007-06-14 16:19                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-15  1:01                                                   ` Drew Adams
2007-06-15 19:22                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-15 21:04                                                       ` Drew Adams
2007-06-16 18:50                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-17 18:46                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-17 19:35                                                       ` Drew Adams
2007-06-18 21:31                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-11  9:44                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-11 17:29                                           ` Drew Adams
2007-06-11 18:10                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-13  8:07                                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-13 15:23                                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-14  7:49                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-15  0:41                                                     ` Drew Adams
2007-06-15 19:22                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-15 21:04                                                         ` Drew Adams
2007-06-16 18:51                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-16 22:30                                                             ` Drew Adams
2007-06-13  8:07                                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-11  3:49                                     ` Miles Bader
2007-06-11  7:24                                       ` Drew Adams
2007-06-11 16:25                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-11  9:44                                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-11 18:41                                         ` Drew Adams
2007-06-12  0:43                                           ` Miles Bader
2007-06-12  8:08                                             ` Kim F. Storm
2007-06-12  9:18                                               ` joakim
2007-06-12 11:04                                                 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-06-12 11:16                                                   ` joakim
2007-06-12 13:30                                                     ` Drew Adams
2007-06-12 14:06                                                     ` keys that work on terminals (was: Re: propose adding Icicles to Emacs) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-06-12 14:45                                                       ` keys that work on terminals joakim
2007-06-12 13:22                                               ` propose adding Icicles to Emacs Drew Adams
2007-06-06 15:43                           ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable in Elispmanualindex] Stefan Monnier
2007-06-04  5:01                 ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable in Elisp manualindex] Richard Stallman
2007-06-04 23:51                   ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-05  3:55                     ` Miles Bader
2007-06-05 16:29                       ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-05 17:12                         ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable in Elispmanualindex] Drew Adams
2007-06-05 19:17                       ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: cannot find :enable in Elisp manualindex] Richard Stallman
2007-06-05 22:32                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-06  0:32                       ` Karl Berry
2007-06-06 22:10                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-06 22:21                           ` Karl Berry
2007-06-02 22:34       ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2007-06-02 22:42     ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-03  3:07       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-03  9:34         ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-03 21:23           ` Karl Berry
2007-06-03 21:27           ` Richard Stallman

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