From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why emacs have not native language menu Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:26:34 +0200 Organization: sometimes Message-ID: <87y7h53mjp.fsf@ambire.localdomain> References: <46A49912.9030203@luxdo.jp> <7056BAE9-002B-46B7-A60A-9EDE375392EE@mx6.tiki.ne.jp> <86FA8DD5-B87E-4E64-90C8-04AA81B9469A@Web.DE> <873aze3qtf.fsf@ambire.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1185288164 13215 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2007 14:42:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:42:44 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 24 16:42:42 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IDLau-0007kP-AQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:42:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IDLat-0001C2-UY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:42:35 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!uio.no!quimby.gnus.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 34 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-138-32.21-151.libero.it Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1185287222 8900 151.21.32.138 (24 Jul 2007 14:27:02 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:27:02 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Mjg2ykCcGXJrfah4vgYFDDLfWsQ= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:150382 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:45961 Archived-At: () Jean-Christophe Helary () Tue, 24 Jul 2007 23:00:28 +0900 No because the people who pretend that there are technical issues or that "it is impossible" do not make sense in the first place. perhaps you misunderstand them (more than they misunderstand you). It is not the technical issues that are (not) discussed here, but the mere idea of localizing emacs. I think it is more a psychological issue than a technical issue right now. evidently. It would be better if people who are not interested in localization stop replying to this thread and let others discuss possibilities. everything is possible in an ideal world. but we are not there, and silence from the knowledgeable does not help us get closer. you say, why not redesign to fit more the ideal? others say, that's a big job, full of technical difficulties. you call them pretenders. i suppose you distrust what you don't know; perhaps that will subside when you age more. i invite you to cross the schism between writer of text and writer of programs. there is lots of fun on both sides. in this way, i hope to "localize" you to reality. :-D thi