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From: Emre Sahin <iesahin@bilkent.edu.tr>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: My emacs was upgraded and I am a novice again
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 01:41:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y7evbsan.fsf@leonardo.iesahin.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ulkavybnx.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon\, 24 Sep 2007 23\:51\:46 +0200")


Just another note about documentation:

Yesterday I convinced myself that removing the "Mail" notification in
the mode line will help for less distraction. I started by checking
the documentation with C-h d, C-h a, C-h v and C-h P with words like
"mail", "display", "notification" etc. My intention was to find some
variable that says Emacs "don't show this mail thing."

I couldn't find anything exactly I wanted, but I thought I found some
way. Changing (poorly documented)
mail-source-report-new-mail-interval and mail-source-idle-time-delay
variables should to the trick. 

But they didn't, and I quit searching for a solution. 

Then, today, when I was changing the face for mode line from
*Customize Group: Mode Line Faces*, I saw something like "Display Time
Mail Face" which is reported to change the display of
"display-time-mail-string" variable. I C-h v'd it, and voila!

Maybe I missed it, maybe Emacs, but somehow I wasn't able to figure
out how to change this by searching documentation. (BTW, I learned
quite a bit by searching, for example I was not aware of a "typing
break mode" for Emacs.) However, I don't think there is a silver
bullet solution, like changing the format or adding a "search all
documentation" function for this problem. I didn't think that mail
notification has something to do with time display and there will
always be cases like this in every software package IMHO. (And Emacs
documentation is the most comprehensive and usable one I've ever
used.)

Best, 

E.

-- 

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-24 22:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-20 18:22 My emacs was upgraded and I am a novice again Bruce Korb
2007-09-20 23:40 ` David Hansen
2007-09-21  9:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-21 11:21   ` Dave Pawson
     [not found]   ` <mailman.1105.1190373701.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-09-21 11:36     ` Joost Kremers
2007-09-21 17:40     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-21 19:17       ` Tom Tromey
2007-09-22  5:04         ` Dave Pawson
2007-09-22  7:39           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-22  8:56             ` Dave Pawson
2007-09-22  9:21               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-22 13:12                 ` Dave Pawson
2007-09-22 14:28                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-22 16:26                     ` Drew Adams
2007-09-22 16:23                   ` Drew Adams
2007-09-22 16:37                     ` Dave Pawson
2007-09-22 18:23                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-22 18:36                       ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.1154.1190466767.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-09-23  7:45                   ` Tim X
     [not found]             ` <mailman.1149.1190451373.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-09-23  6:49               ` Tim X
2007-09-23  8:26                 ` Dave Pawson
2007-09-23 11:13                 ` Bastien
2007-09-23 16:14             ` Tom Tromey
2007-09-23 19:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]               ` <mailman.1193.1190574615.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-09-24  0:38                 ` Johan Bockgård
2007-09-24  4:25                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-25  8:54                 ` Tim X
     [not found]             ` <mailman.1189.1190565460.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-09-23 16:52               ` David Kastrup
2007-09-23 17:27                 ` Tom Tromey
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.1192.1190569877.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-09-23 18:03                   ` Joost Kremers
2007-10-17 23:19                 ` David Combs
     [not found]         ` <mailman.1147.1190437481.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.\x04org>
2007-09-23  5:56           ` Tim X
2007-09-23  7:18             ` Dave Pawson
2007-09-23  5:01     ` Tim X
2007-09-23  6:25       ` Dave Pawson
2007-09-24  0:15       ` Sean Sieger
     [not found]       ` <mailman.1172.1190528732.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-09-23  8:18         ` David Kastrup
2007-09-23  8:56           ` Dave Pawson
2007-09-23 19:11             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]           ` <mailman.\x041177.1190537774.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-09-23  9:25             ` David Kastrup
2007-10-17 23:23           ` AH HA! it's a MENU item! " David Combs
2007-09-24  4:09         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-24  8:36           ` David Hansen
2007-09-24 21:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-24 22:41             ` Emre Sahin [this message]
2007-09-24 23:10               ` Bastien
2007-09-25 15:47                 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25 21:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-25 21:46                     ` Drew Adams
2007-09-26  9:02                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-26 14:47                         ` Drew Adams
2007-09-26 15:05                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-26 16:10                             ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25  4:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-25 11:06                 ` Emre Sahin
2007-09-25 21:24                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]               ` <mailman.1254.1190675441.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-09-25  5:52                 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-25  7:08                   ` Bastien
2007-09-24  8:05         ` Tim X
2007-09-24 16:12           ` Sean Sieger
     [not found] <mailman.1081.1190330833.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-09-21  4:35 ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-23 20:17 ` Tom Horsley
2007-09-23 20:31   ` David Kastrup
2007-09-23 21:11     ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 10:51     ` Tom Horsley
2007-09-24 21:49       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-25  8:57   ` Tim X
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-10-06 18:44 Bruce Korb
     [not found] <mailman.1779.1191696304.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-10-07  5:45 ` Tim X
2007-10-10 17:16 ` Stefan Monnier

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