From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: region-active-p Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:59:11 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87y7c1o8a4.fsf@jurta.org> References: <200710191149.59775.andreas.roehler@online.de> <200712111007.45109.andreas.roehler@online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1197368256 7191 80.91.229.12 (11 Dec 2007 10:17:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:17:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, Reiner Steib , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Stephen Turnbull , Miles Bader To: Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=F6hler?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 11 11:17:46 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J22BI-0001Vl-0H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:17:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J22Az-0002au-2a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:17:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J224r-0004sv-Kc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:11:01 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J224n-0004mq-3C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:11:01 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J224m-0004mR-3q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:10:56 -0500 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J224c-0001Xz-PC; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:10:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1J224X-0000sN-1w; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:10:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: <200712111007.45109.andreas.roehler@online.de> ("Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=F6hler=22's?= message of "Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:07:43 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: d0b3bc0b24c4067239780ad28ae5b444 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1866 [Dec 10 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 19 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85036 Archived-At: >> I came up with a better solution to the question of what region-active-p >> should do when the region is empty: make it a user option. >> I think that will make people happy, because I expect most users will >> have the same preference for all the commands. >> >> I will install it when I have a good connection. > > To be more precisely: For the special case "region > exist but empty" XEmacs has already the function > `region-exists-p'. `region-active-p' fails in > that case and I see no reason to make things more > complicated at this point. > > It's quite easy to follow in both cases, remaining > differences caused by routines below will not be > remarkable by users as was stated correctly. `region-exists-p' in XEmacs would be equivalent in Emacs to: (defun region-exists-p () (not (null mark-active))) I don't see how this is comparable to `region-active-p' with "region exist but empty" in Emacs. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/