From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Romain Francoise Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: eshell-defgroup. Do we really need this? Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:08:04 +0200 Organization: orebokech dot com Message-ID: <87y73giryj.fsf@elegiac.orebokech.com> References: <20080729222754.GC2208@muc.de> <86myjx3lt8.fsf@lifelogs.com> <48921019.6030308@gmail.com> <8663qk3g0w.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217610533 28691 80.91.229.12 (1 Aug 2008 17:08:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:08:53 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 01 19:09:43 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KOy8G-0006Ce-5l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:09:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35982 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOy7L-0006AB-Gd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:08:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KOy6z-0005vt-O9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:08:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KOy6y-0005uu-GE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:08:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54590 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOy6y-0005un-5O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:08:16 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:58744 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KOy6x-0001E9-HO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:08:15 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KOy6v-0000RE-AI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:08:13 +0000 Original-Received: from home.orebokech.com ([82.67.41.165]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:08:13 +0000 Original-Received: from romain by home.orebokech.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:08:13 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: home.orebokech.com X-Face: }9mYu,e_@+e!`Z-P5kVXa3\_b:hdJ"B)ww[&=b<2=awG:GOIM List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101907 Archived-At: Hi Ted, Ted Zlatanov writes: > Romain, can you set up build failures to be aggregated? I can set > up buildbot (send me your setup if you can) for a confirmation > run; if both our builds fail then the Emacs CVS trunk is probably > broken. My experience with running this buildbot (and others) suggests that there is little value in doing this; buildbot does a clean build every time so if it fails then we can be fairly sure that CVS is broken. I'm not sure which platform you were offering to build on, but the standard way to set up a buildbot is to have a master instance with one builder per platform, say one for Debian, one for Windows, one for Mac OS X, etc. The instance at http://emacsbuild.orebokech.com/ only has builders for Debian etch, having more would be nice. > The important thing is to send a notice only when the build breaks > (after 15 minutes or so, in case we miss an immediate fix commit) > and another one when it's back. We definitely don't want e-mails > on every commit. Builds are time-based at the moment: every six hours. And it already sends mail only when the state changes, I made that change at Martin's request (it's not standard buildbot behavior). While we're on this topic, I should note that a few weeks ago I changed the configuration of the builders to do an additional build with --without-x, it breaks often and can go unnoticed for some time because relatively few people configure Emacs that way.