From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul R Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Distributed Maintenance for Emacs Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:45:42 +0100 Message-ID: <87y6yh8eg9.fsf@gmail.com> References: <2103fd36-c5cd-4e8d-a74f-34697a369934@a26g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <003101c954de$f95a3000$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1229366890 1331 80.91.229.12 (15 Dec 2008 18:48:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Leo Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 15 19:49:15 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LCIVC-0002vt-KJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:49:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40143 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LCIU0-0001VJ-NC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:47:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LCIS0-0000Sh-IY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:45:52 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LCIRz-0000S2-H5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:45:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59811 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LCIRz-0000Ro-An for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:45:51 -0500 Original-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.158]:40014) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LCIRy-0007ko-Uj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:45:51 -0500 Original-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1368032fgb.30 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:45:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:references :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=Jsukbk1gZCNntKHwCjRIVxgxACJOsW04dfBbdVcGy5Y=; b=WdYfBFMKCCXFpoUJAgjKHsUTEpOuoNVRqvnupDGj+TCV0O5kxPgP9+69KoYTdCPzU3 B2Mm2xP5dvdeRdfJaIWpmzXCh+Jzd83BS8XkRaJ0ylgKlrk5q/nzKNQKGXrWlLiU0u/h mrUq4fkLv8ysnjFY92T20S2Fjkkn9MyRUltp4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=e5EJ4Ym7/lYFa9vPSIz7MBm0WGhSr+8H3V4XweA8xPedZyc/k4VMdahS34ry5dJdDb dpatgieg28u9h0cz09pQolhXCwQaib3NI0+vxPmx1vNVQvxP9uyxdl9JXOnJJs9UDas5 8Nk4OHfiyblIJ+WM4w4S0cZPNkzr0A1JpDQk8= Original-Received: by 10.86.27.9 with SMTP id a9mr1950235fga.46.1229366747628; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:45:47 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from ubuT42 (pdc35-1-82-242-132-111.fbx.proxad.net [82.242.132.111]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm380577fgg.37.2008.12.15.10.45.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:45:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Leo's message of "Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:24:55 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:60634 Archived-At: Both the *default settings* for emacs UI and the lack of ready-to-use packages are problems for wider emacs adoption. The first one could be easily adressed by convincing the core team of the need. The second one mainly needs an officially supported package management system built into emacs, and packages in it would have to be as orthogonal as possible in terms of functionnality, so that it is clear to the user that he needs package X to achieve task Y. EmacsWiki already is a kind of informal emacs CPAN, without the packaging. -- Paul