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From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
To: Eli Barzilay <eli@barzilay.org>
Cc: 4118@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Subject: bug#4118: 23.1; eval-last-sexp-print-value is inconvenient
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:54:10 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y6pm6kwt.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19076.48381.916404.208797@winooski.ccs.neu.edu> (Eli Barzilay's message of "Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:25:17 -0400")

>> The reason not to print the extra information on the first
>> invocation of `eval-last-sexp' is the following.  Most often users
>> want to see the integer result of the evaluated expression, but the
>> extra information also contains a character representation of this
>> integer that might print some unrelated character that might load
>> some weird fonts the user doesn't want to load.
>
> In that case the obvious way to do this is to not print the character
> form if it requires such a font.  If this is not easy to do, then
> making it work only for ASCII seems better than the current weird
> behavior.  (The reason I consider it weird is that I managed to use
> Emacs for more than 15 years without noticing it.)

There is no way to guess whether the user want to see the character
(however weird it is) or not.

> The main point (IMO) of making it consistent is keyboard macros, and
> in that case, if you want the character, then it's easy to just wrap
> an (insert ...) around the expression.  Using it to insert the
> character and then removing all the preceding text is much more
> difficult for that.

Wrapping an (insert ...) around the expression is not as easy as typing
`C-u C-x C-e', copying the character and undoing the change with C-/.

-- 
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/





  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-14 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-11 10:55 bug#4118: 23.1; eval-last-sexp-print-value is inconvenient Eli Barzilay
2009-08-12 20:57 ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-13  1:18   ` Eli Barzilay
2009-08-13 23:33     ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-14  1:25       ` Eli Barzilay
2009-08-14 22:54         ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2009-08-15  1:38           ` Eli Barzilay
2009-08-15 23:16             ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-16  0:00               ` Eli Barzilay
2009-08-17  0:52                 ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-17  3:18                   ` Eli Barzilay
2016-06-15  0:35 ` Noam Postavsky

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