From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: loaddefs and provide Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:10:08 -0500 Message-ID: <87y6mmb4i7.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1257354928 31006 80.91.229.12 (4 Nov 2009 17:15:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:15:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Juanma Barranquero To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 04 18:15:21 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N5jS4-0002gu-IR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:15:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33767 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N5jS4-00017x-1W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:15:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N5jND-0006Tg-QZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:10:19 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N5jN9-0006PU-7V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:10:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50405 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N5jN9-0006PJ-19 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:10:15 -0500 Original-Received: from pantheon-po25.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.119]:47717) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N5jN6-00020y-KY; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:10:12 -0500 Original-Received: from furry (dhcp128036014244.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.244]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po25.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id nA4HA9ZV006371 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:10:09 -0500 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BFEA1C070; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:10:08 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:58:48 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:116630 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>> * calendar/calendar.el (cal-loaddefs): >>> * calendar/diary-lib.el (diary-loaddefs): >>> * calendar/holidays.el (hol-loaddefs): >>> * eshell/esh-module.el (esh-groups): >>> * mh/mh-e.el (mh-loaddefs): Load rather than require. > >> The removal of the provide statement from autoload-rubric was >> undocumented (it's a separate issue from generated-autoload-feature). > >> If it was unintentional, I would prefer to put this back to how it was. > > I hesitated, but in the end, given the fact that we now use files whose > non-directory names may clash, I think that auto-generating feature > names from files is too risky and not worth the trouble (and > generated-autoload-feature is not a solution since it is not at the > right place, and actually there's no right place for it). This is unwise. There are several third-party packages that depend on the old behavior (i.e. having a provide statement in the generated loaddefs file). The third-party version of CEDET is one example. This change causes too much incompatibility. We should revert it, at least for the 23.2 release.