From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bazaar: "unable to obtain lock" Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:07:57 +0100 Message-ID: <87y6kkkl1u.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <87my11gmf4.fsf@red-bean.com> <87fx6sqbnt.fsf@blah.blah> <877hs4m1dh.fsf@telefonica.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1262221832 25849 80.91.229.12 (31 Dec 2009 01:10:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:10:32 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 31 02:10:25 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NQ9YS-00078p-Po for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:10:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47687 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NQ9YS-0007oa-Vc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:10:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NQ9YN-0007oL-TN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:10:15 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NQ9YJ-0007nH-5f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:10:15 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60265 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NQ9YI-0007nE-US for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:10:10 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:52131) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NQ9YI-0001DS-DG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:10:10 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NQ9YC-00070Q-QW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:10:04 +0100 Original-Received: from 217.red-88-24-214.staticip.rima-tde.net ([88.24.214.217]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:10:04 +0100 Original-Received: from ofv by 217.red-88-24-214.staticip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:10:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.red-88-24-214.staticip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:po5ABiQQYNyG8utihzoQSEJZBD0= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:119091 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 1:30 AM, Óscar Fuentes wrote: >> >> A tarball with a lightweight checkout would require 31 MB. The bad news >> is that if your connection is so slow that a 300 MB download is >> unacceptable, you will have problems with the network inefficiency of >> bzr over http/sftp. A simple update after a few days can easily require >> to transfer 10 MB. A commit can be very expensive too at times. A >> lightweight checkout needs to contact upstream for almost everything. > > > Can someone please explain what is going on? The remote client needs to read and write data on the server for doing its stuff. Too often it needs to read a lot of data. > Shouldn't this be fixed, or? There is a fix: the Bazaar smart server, so the server receives bazaar commands, executed them and returns the result to the client. For some reason it is not being used. -- Óscar