From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: finder.el UI (was: Keywords) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:48:03 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87y6hnq59o.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <87zl2g24xy.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87mxyfq3bz.fsf@gmx.de> <87sk87h49a.fsf@gmx.de> <87hbomwu4b.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> <878w9yr0zh.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> <87pr37ka78.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87fx41uwl4.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <874okc6x5p.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1269040968 4817 80.91.229.12 (19 Mar 2010 23:22:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:22:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 20 00:22:44 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NslWd-00080n-0u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:22:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48734 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NslWc-000527-FU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:22:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NslWW-000522-Me for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:22:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=33131 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NslWU-00051u-An for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:22:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NslWR-0001a4-2d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:22:34 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp-out2.starman.ee ([85.253.0.4]:35900 helo=mx2.starman.ee) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NslWQ-0001Zs-Si for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:22:31 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-New at mx2.starman.ee Original-Received: from mail.starman.ee (82.131.94.132.cable.starman.ee [82.131.94.132]) by mx2.starman.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0EB3F40D9; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:22:23 +0200 (EET) In-Reply-To: <874okc6x5p.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:25:54 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122320 Archived-At: > Is there any possibility of rethinking the UI of finder.el? It's > very... episodic. Yes, the old finder UI was too ad-hoc. This is the reason why there was a task in etc/TODO to replace it with the Info UI that I implemented for 23.2 with `M-x info-finder'. > The BBDB UI, for instance, does a great job filtering and displaying a > few choices from a large list. The Gnus summary/article buffers are > another good UI example, with the limiting commands. package.el can > list hundreds of packages concisely. package.el has a different usage of keywords. While Info UI is useful for informational purposes (to find a package etc.), the purpose of package.el is to select and install a package. This requires a different UI. I think the most convenient UI for this task would be UI like http://www.jurta.org/en/emacs/ee/finder Please note that I don't propose to use this package as is in package.el. I'm referring to its UI that would be useful for package.el. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/