From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alex Ott Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Efforts to attract more users? Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:23:24 +0200 Organization: Alex Ott's Consulting Message-ID: <87y6dkoncz.fsf@aott.dev.webwasher.com> References: <4C37108C.3040207@siege-engine.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278678163 27941 80.91.229.12 (9 Jul 2010 12:22:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 12:22:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: fplemma@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Eric M. Ludlam" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 09 14:22:41 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXCbI-0002m0-8G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:22:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44243 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXCbH-0001RD-F4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 08:22:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51475 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXCbC-0001R8-H6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 08:22:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXCbA-0004lL-ER for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 08:22:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-bw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41]:34625) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXCbA-0004kw-7p; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 08:22:32 -0400 Original-Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so1328327bwz.0 for ; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 05:22:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject :organization:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=E/Da3sIztmBdBfVHM20L+HF2mkrUZ33k0kmGlJfiFkw=; b=llXpmyJTYQDxOf2reKqh6v1otXBtTV0Ms2NLV/d7CKwnUadW3W9vCGA1sBRnkbmMP4 DDNsFOcOc2r1UgA2zJf2cREYNszTPJtm0k1s2yWMJoEoJ6iECinC/w6qnYfPGzRzZYWh UsXbXpeI1ypJqgZrQdiw6rWuBP/PhGI1R35Fc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=X6omz5dRZwZfzRj9v2HO0pJLr4u4Bh75L6pGqAj9TMhEgS9+u12RUsSArP1nBwtw5n X+eYIxQwj62WneEkQ6oSkVMwJUUOzuMaCZgIpfBOp3Ji/LZ91H+LWf/5mtJfenkXWhja 7gzMl4MUHIBQ2tZ6P8ajVuThaF+0GrrEJII18= Original-Received: by 10.204.160.146 with SMTP id n18mr7541539bkx.116.1278678150085; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 05:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from aott.dev.webwasher.com (pdbfw01.securecomputing.com [80.66.20.180]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a11sm251364bkc.12.2010.07.09.05.22.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 09 Jul 2010 05:22:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C37108C.3040207@siege-engine.com> (Eric M. Ludlam's message of "Fri, 09 Jul 2010 08:05:32 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:126946 Archived-At: Re Eric M. Ludlam at "Fri, 09 Jul 2010 08:05:32 -0400" wrote: EML> On 07/08/2010 11:05 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: >> The Eclipse IDE has some nice features. Maybe CEDET gives us some of >> them, but maybe we still lack some. EML> In some ways CEDET is "better" that Eclipse (code completion in C/C++ is better), and in EML> others it falls behind, such as project management. (This I gather from comments I've EML> read). The biggest problem with CEDET is speed, and complexity of installation/configuration for projects - this is most often called problem, that I got as response for my articles and blog posts P.S. you can read some of comments at http://alexott.net/en/writings/emacs-devenv/EmacsCedet.html (JS is required) -- With best wishes, Alex Ott, MBA http://alexott.blogspot.com/ http://alexott.net http://alexott-ru.blogspot.com/