From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sean Sieger Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs learning curve Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 21:00:27 -0400 Message-ID: <87y6di4ytw.fsf@gmail.com> References: <10954D02-E217-49F3-8824-757DA34074AB@gmail.com> <83zkxzakr0.fsf@gnu.org> <83pqyva8ms.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278810057 26837 80.91.229.12 (11 Jul 2010 01:00:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 01:00:57 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 11 03:00:56 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXkub-0008HI-TD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 03:00:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43397 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXkub-0007DQ-Cb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 21:00:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47479 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXkuW-0007DL-8X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 21:00:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXkuT-0005ly-Mk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 21:00:48 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:36267) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXkuT-0005la-Gs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 21:00:45 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXkuP-0008Cb-LY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 03:00:41 +0200 Original-Received: from pool-162-84-247-13.ny5030.east.verizon.net ([162.84.247.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 03:00:41 +0200 Original-Received: from sean.sieger by pool-162-84-247-13.ny5030.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 03:00:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 15 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-162-84-247-13.ny5030.east.verizon.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:SGcroXG8Z8FejAYhjcR0Zq2y+d4= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127017 Archived-At: I have several times pointed out that it is the sum of the differences that makes it difficult for new users. The stories about users wanting to try but giving up partly because they realize they do not have time to go through all the differences are frequent. This is ridiculous, Lennart. Not reading something because it doesn't `read' the way you want it to ... um, sounds like sheer laziness. How much reading would not have gotten done in the history of reading because of your illogic. I think you're wrong for promoting not-reading.