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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Ken Raeburn <raeburn@raeburn.org>
Cc: Emacs Dev <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Should Emacs provide a uuid function?
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:45:24 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y62yafdn.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42A7030B-DE0C-4CCA-A768-B82BE70C42F9@raeburn.org>

Ken Raeburn writes:
 > On Apr 25, 2011, at 00:37, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
 > > I have to agree with Yidong; there's no good reason not to inline
 > > 
 > >    (shell-command-to-string "uuidgen")
 > > 
 > > in any of the applications you've mentioned if you want an
 > > uuidgen-format UUID.
 > 
 > How widespread is the uuidgen program these days?

Don't know.  The only system I'd worry about is Windows, though.

I wonder if the POP (mail protocol) standard says anything about
this.  ISTR that some kind of unique identifier is part of it.  If so,
I'd imagine something equivalent to uuidgen is available at a hard
drive near you.

 > Though, at least one version I ran across generates (by default?) 
 > the information-revealing "version 1" format that encodes the
 > machine's MAC address, and while some versions have options to
 > control which form is generated, not all do.

Application where you'd care, please.  If any of the data for the
applications mentioned by Leo leaked enough that somebody got hold of
one of the UUIDs, I'd be worried about everything *except* my MAC
address.

 > Using the version-4 random-number-based form described in
 > wikipedia, it would probably be faster

"Speed kills."<wink>  Or should I haul out the old Don Knuth chestnut?

Again, what applications of UUIDs are you thinking of where you'd care?

If somebody wants to put a uuidgen.el into ELPA, that would probably
be cool though.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-25  8:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-15  4:59 Should Emacs provide a uuid function? Leo
2011-04-24 20:43 ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-25  3:37   ` Leo
2011-04-25  4:37     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-25  7:21       ` Ken Raeburn
2011-04-25  8:45         ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2011-04-25  9:53           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-25 10:33             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-25 12:30               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-28 15:11           ` Ken Raeburn
2011-04-29  3:47             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-30  8:00               ` Ken Raeburn
2011-04-30 18:39                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-30 22:22                   ` Ken Raeburn
2011-05-01  9:06                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-30 13:32               ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-30 13:39                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-25 19:52         ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-28 15:11           ` Ken Raeburn
2011-05-09  6:29           ` Leo
2011-05-09  7:23             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-09 10:51               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-09 11:35                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-09 11:36                 ` Leo
2011-05-09 14:38               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-09 14:51                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-09 15:41                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-09 15:50                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-09 17:03                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-09 19:32                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-09 15:09                 ` Chong Yidong
2011-05-09 15:26                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-09 15:27                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-09 15:36                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-09 15:42                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-09 15:53                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-09 15:51                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-09 15:59                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-09 17:05                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-09 17:45                     ` joakim
2011-05-09 17:50                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-10 14:03                         ` Jason Rumney
2011-05-30 17:22                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-04-26 21:06 Ben Key
2011-04-26 21:16 Ben Key
2011-04-26 22:51 ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-27  3:43   ` Leo

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