* bug#9174: give help-gnu-emacs listinfo page URL
@ 2011-07-26 16:55 jidanni
2011-09-11 2:34 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-31 5:41 ` bug#9174: close 9174 Chong Yidong
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From: jidanni @ 2011-07-26 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9174
On (info "(emacs) Service") mention
https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs
so people can see the archives before posting.
Same about bug-gnu-emacs wherever in Info that is mentioned.
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* bug#9174: give help-gnu-emacs listinfo page URL
2011-07-26 16:55 bug#9174: give help-gnu-emacs listinfo page URL jidanni
@ 2011-09-11 2:34 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-11 15:13 ` Drew Adams
2012-01-31 5:41 ` bug#9174: close 9174 Chong Yidong
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-09-11 2:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: jidanni; +Cc: 9174
jidanni@jidanni.org writes:
> On (info "(emacs) Service") mention
> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs
> so people can see the archives before posting.
Including URLs in the manuals always means more work, since these
invariably change. So I don't think this is a good idea.
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* bug#9174: give help-gnu-emacs listinfo page URL
2011-09-11 2:34 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2011-09-11 15:13 ` Drew Adams
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From: Drew Adams @ 2011-09-11 15:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen', jidanni; +Cc: 9174
> > On (info "(emacs) Service") mention
> > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs
> > so people can see the archives before posting.
>
> Including URLs in the manuals always means more work, since these
> invariably change. So I don't think this is a good idea.
With that logic we should just delete the whole manual, nay, all of the manuals.
That would certainly save work.
Of course such a link should be provided. That's a no-brainer. This link
target describes the help mailing list. That is likely to save work in the end.
And even if it means more support work, it should be done because it helps
users.
What's more, GNU should, if it does not already, have a way to use permanent
links (aka universal linking), so that even if a background URL changes the URL
in the doc can stay the same. IOW, this is an opportunity to improve how we
link, not just an opportunity to save work or close bugs.
Until such permanent linking is available, please add a normal, "invariably
changing" URL. Users go to the "work" of reporting such bugs. The least we can
do is honor that work with a dignified response, and not just reject suggestions
out of hand with the sole argument that they mean a little work.
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* bug#9174: close 9174
2011-07-26 16:55 bug#9174: give help-gnu-emacs listinfo page URL jidanni
2011-09-11 2:34 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2012-01-31 5:41 ` Chong Yidong
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From: Chong Yidong @ 2012-01-31 5:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9174-done
The bug-gnu-emacs archive link is present in the manual, but adding URLs
for finding help for Emacs is pointless since there are tons of
resources out there and we can't list them all in the manual. Closing.
Drew: do not reopen.
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