From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: more on starttls, gnutls-cli and using tls for mail
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 08:08:27 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y5xc6a7o.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87bovsj72q.fsf@red-bean.com
On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 12:23:09 -0400 Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com> wrote:
KF> Separately, I think it's bad that we removed the Elisp-based API for
KF> passing this authn information, since some people (like me) are already
KF> using Elisp to fetch the auth creds securely from elsewhere, and having
KF> to dynamically construct a ~/.authinfo file as a means of passing that
KF> information *to other Elisp* is, shall we say, a really poor API.
KF> There's no reason we can't have both `smtpmail-auth-credentials' and
KF> ~/.authinfo (or ~/.authinfo.foo), and simply fall try the former when
KF> the latter is unavailable.
KF> However, that's a larger change, or semi-reversion. I don't know if it
KF> would be accepted; I guess it belongs in a distinct thread.
`smtpmail-auth-credentials' is not a good interface for many reasons.
It was very, very well discussed in the past. Everything it can do,
should be possible with `auth-source-search'.
`auth-source' supports multiple backends. There's no reason we can't
provide a backend that does the dynamic fetching you want and does not
use a authinfo/netrc file. The authinfo/netrc backend supports entry
creation and can share the file with other consumers such as libcurl;
this is the main reason why it's the default now.
You should also note that you can configure `auth-sources' to use any
combination of backends. So your custom ELisp backend could be first,
then you'd hit the Secrets API, then the authinfo/netrc backend. This
is simply impossible with `smtpmail-auth-credentials'.
Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-25 13:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-14 1:19 more on starttls, gnutls-cli and using tls for mail T. V. Raman
2011-08-14 1:26 ` Karl Fogel
2011-08-14 3:40 ` Leo
2011-08-14 5:42 ` Karl Fogel
2011-08-14 12:02 ` Vijay Lakshminarayanan
2011-08-14 21:07 ` Leo
2011-08-15 3:53 ` Vijay Lakshminarayanan
2011-08-15 4:27 ` Leo
2011-08-15 7:41 ` Vijay Lakshminarayanan
2011-08-15 6:03 ` Tim Cross
2011-08-15 7:38 ` Vijay Lakshminarayanan
2011-08-17 1:54 ` Tim Cross
2011-08-17 14:28 ` Karl Fogel
2011-08-17 22:48 ` Tim Cross
2011-08-18 0:33 ` chad
2011-08-18 3:11 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-17 17:27 ` Vijay Lakshminarayanan
2011-08-15 7:47 ` Richard Riley
2011-08-15 9:21 ` David Engster
2011-08-17 2:03 ` Tim Cross
2011-08-17 7:03 ` David Engster
2011-08-15 16:25 ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-08-16 9:33 ` Leo
2011-08-16 10:12 ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-08-17 2:13 ` Tim Cross
2011-08-17 1:08 ` Richard Riley
2011-08-14 6:24 ` Roland Winkler
2011-08-14 6:32 ` Roland Winkler
2011-08-14 16:23 ` Karl Fogel
2011-08-15 15:21 ` Roland Winkler
2011-08-17 2:09 ` Tim Cross
2011-09-25 13:08 ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2011-09-25 17:26 ` Karl Fogel
2011-09-26 17:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-09-27 15:28 ` Karl Fogel
2011-08-17 21:06 ` Multiple SMTP accounts with smtpmail.el (was: more on starttls, gnutls-cli and using tls for mail) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-18 3:19 ` Multiple SMTP accounts with smtpmail.el Leo
2011-08-18 14:20 ` Karl Fogel
2011-08-18 16:41 ` Vijay Lakshminarayanan
2011-08-19 14:42 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-21 2:13 ` Karl Fogel
2011-08-21 4:16 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-22 7:22 ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-25 13:10 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-09-26 18:06 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-26 19:24 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-09-25 22:46 ` Rasmus
2011-08-14 17:12 ` more on starttls, gnutls-cli and using tls for mail Chong Yidong
2011-08-17 20:58 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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2011-08-14 2:10 raman
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