From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Git mirrors Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:55:00 +0200 Message-ID: <87y5wnzt2j.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8762k095n4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871uuksdxi.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83lissxj9a.fsf@gnu.org> <87k48by7ex.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87r52jfbrw.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87k48bf1q9.fsf@wanadoo.es> <871uuh25ef.fsf@ktravel.red-bean.com> <87mxd5pjec.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <878vopcnaw.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318593269 5407 80.91.229.12 (14 Oct 2011 11:54:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, jwiegley@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, kfogel@red-bean.com, schwab@linux-m68k.org, stephen@xemacs.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 14 13:54:22 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1REgLG-0001pW-A2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:54:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43410 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1REgLF-0001Kd-WF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:54:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:37328) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1REgLD-0001KY-AI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:54:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1REgLB-0000xB-Sb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:54:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wy0-f169.google.com ([74.125.82.169]:63673) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1REgLB-0000x1-IO; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:54:17 -0400 Original-Received: by wyi40 with SMTP id 40so3401013wyi.0 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 04:54:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=AdkPjCI7Q/jl5ulC0rqbhtxvqVPGcfYQoiVrDTyCLgE=; b=s+RQMim7oMYBhdBu+kyuMTMdrgjmBQw9nIqFuF5F4X44fCFGKbfgEqsJNu2kKjPrt/ jmFBGvfMGIrg6e7wnqif9jkV2msOxUoP/7Xqa0+nwkFbLJPTgPndc3iezI+XrCu0y1DS ImXs8YlRludx7wBUOin81R1tOiZHqVJftS4mE= Original-Received: by 10.216.22.129 with SMTP id t1mr1124400wet.20.1318593255607; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 04:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from myhost.localdomain (fon75-1-78-192-119-5.fbxo.proxad.net. [78.192.119.5]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ei16sm13724654wbb.21.2011.10.14.04.54.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 14 Oct 2011 04:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E337FA980; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:55:00 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:13:01 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 74.125.82.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:145206 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Why don't we run a poll to ask GNU Emacs devs what dVCS they > would like to use for GNU Emacs development? > > Because the issue goes beyond the question of what is convenient for > Emacs development at the present time. John's point is about both conveniency and how using bzr is not the best way to support FSF's goals. Karl's point goes into more details about the latter issue. FWIW, I agree with both John and Karl. Polling Emacs developers about what dVCS they want to use is not about conveniency alone, it is about all these issues, political ones included. But seeing very little support for this idea, I guess there is something wrong with it. Thanks to John's work things are going in the right direction anyway. -- Bastien