From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unwarranted invocation of starttls Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 06:05:38 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87y5tn7mnx.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <83aa67s5zo.fsf@gnu.org> <834nwfs0k2.fsf@gnu.org> <83zke4po98.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325675427 5836 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2012 11:10:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 11:10:27 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 04 12:10:23 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiOjc-0004DG-Lx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:10:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57314 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiOjb-0007BV-UO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 06:10:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60765) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiOjU-0007BH-70 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 06:10:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiOjQ-0006rN-EF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 06:10:12 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:48678) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiOjQ-0006qx-5U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 06:10:08 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiOjP-00047C-Lt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:10:07 +0100 Original-Received: from c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net ([76.28.40.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:10:07 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:10:07 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ToniLMjmxbo9yOarVTluWVKy8Gk= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147261 Archived-At: On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 20:45:57 +0100 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: LMI> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Does TLS work on Windows with gnutls-cli.exe? I though it didn't, >> because that mode of operation depended on signals that Windows >> doesn't support. LMI> Oh, yeah, that rings a bell. LMI> If this is the case, the simple fix here is to have LMI> `starttls-available-p' return nil on Windows. LMI> Does anybody remember whether starttls.el is supposed to work under LMI> Windows or not? It can work, with a lot of fiddling, but is unreliable and causes many issues that are hard to replicate, timeouts especially. I don't know of anyone happily using it on W32 and think disabling it on W32 is a good choice. Ted