From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Teemu Likonen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CL package serious deficiencies Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:15:21 +0200 Message-ID: <87y5sdmpp2.fsf@mithlond.arda> References: <33271707.post@talk.nabble.com> <87fwemcwlx.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1328722694 11931 80.91.229.3 (8 Feb 2012 17:38:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:38:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nix@esperi.org.uk, egnarts-ms , Stefan Monnier , Drew Adams , Emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 08 18:38:12 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RvBTA-00045b-Ab for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:38:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40766 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvBT9-0001iO-NB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:38:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58063) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rv7N7-0003kv-7N for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:15:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rv7N2-00054q-W8 for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:15:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mta-out.inet.fi ([195.156.147.13]:38045 helo=jenni1.inet.fi) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rv7N2-00052U-Jv for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:15:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mithlond.arda (84.251.132.215) by jenni1.inet.fi (8.5.140.02) id 4EB291C404CCE304; Wed, 8 Feb 2012 15:15:23 +0200 Original-Received: from dtw by mithlond.arda with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rv7Mn-0000h4-SV; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:15:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Tue, 7 Feb 2012 20:11:11 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.93 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 195.156.147.13 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:38:09 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:148365 Archived-At: * Lennart Borgman [2012-02-07 20:11:11 +0100] wrote: > There are things that do not work if you include cl.el at run time. > You may not notice the problems and tracking it down has been quite > difficult some times. About two weeks ago I noticed the opposite. I switched from Emacs 23.2 to 24.0 and experienced that some spam- or registry-related things in Gnus didn't work _without_ run-time cl package. I support the idea of making Emacs Lisp closer to CL so I don't care to complain about it.