From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Tromey Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CL package serious deficiencies Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:34:55 -0700 Message-ID: <87y5sabkq8.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> References: <33271707.post@talk.nabble.com> <87fwemcwlx.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <87zkcubbfc.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <87vcnibb9t.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <87r4y6bams.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <4F3198CE.9000900@dancol.org> <87r4y4w1nr.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1328898916 23250 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2012 18:35:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:35:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 10 19:35:15 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RvvJT-0001O2-1i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:35:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42472 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvvJS-0002gd-6h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:35:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:43639) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvvJO-0002fZ-OP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:35:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvvJJ-0003yR-VW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:35:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:5469) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvvJC-0003uB-TP; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:34:59 -0500 Original-Received: from int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.24]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1AIYvRD030103 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:34:57 -0500 Original-Received: from ns3.rdu.redhat.com (ns3.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.255.199]) by int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1AIYv8f017317; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:34:57 -0500 Original-Received: from barimba (ovpn01.gateway.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.9.1]) by ns3.rdu.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q1AIYt0k010589; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:34:55 -0500 X-Attribution: Tom In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:44:28 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.93 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.24 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.132.183.28 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:148452 Archived-At: >>>>> "RMS" == Richard Stallman writes: RMS> Is eieio one self-contained feature? If so, that is another RMS> difference between eieio and CL. I think it depends on how you look at it. EIEIO is a subset of CLOS. So in one sense it is a single feature. When I read (info "(eieio) Introduction"), though, I see that it provides many things. Tom