From: Jeremiah Dodds <jeremiah.dodds@gmail.com>
To: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: proposal to make null string handling more emacs-y
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:59:24 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y5phu8o3.fsf@destructor.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ehr9n8nh.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:41:38 +0900")
Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:
> Jeremiah Dodds <jeremiah.dodds@gmail.com> writes:
>>>> and the downside is that some user is sitting there unable to start
>>>> Emacs because two required packages -- packages that may be used only
>>>> on demand or not at all -- are arguing over some runtime value.
>>>> That's a big downside.
>>>
>>> WTF do you keep going on about Emacs startup?
>>
>> I believe this is because it seems that the "uh-oh i got a nil when I
>> expected a string" error commonly happens on emacs startup, confusing
>> new users, presumably after loading some big bunch of elisp.
>
> Does it? I don't think I've _ever_ seen that error at startup (though
> I've certainly had errors during startup)...
>
> -miles
It's happened to me enough times over the course of the decade or so
that I've been using emacs to remember it. I know that the first few
times it happened, I was pretty green and got really confused for a
while. Nowadays, I know how to figure out wtf is going on.
Unfortunately I don't remember the specifics of what triggered the error
for any of the times I ran into the issue.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-04-27 3:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-04-25 0:24 proposal to make null string handling more emacs-y Steve Yegge
2012-04-25 4:45 ` Karl Fogel
2012-04-25 6:28 ` Miles Bader
2012-04-25 6:34 ` Miles Bader
2012-04-25 13:21 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-05-01 22:01 ` Randal L. Schwartz
2012-04-25 7:53 ` Helmut Eller
2012-04-25 8:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-25 14:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-25 14:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-25 15:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-25 16:41 ` Miles Bader
2012-04-25 16:45 ` Andreas Schwab
2012-04-25 16:46 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-04-26 21:20 ` Steve Yegge
2012-04-26 22:11 ` Miles Bader
2012-04-26 23:52 ` Steve Yegge
2012-04-27 0:29 ` Miles Bader
2012-04-27 3:20 ` Jeremiah Dodds
2012-04-27 3:41 ` Miles Bader
2012-04-27 3:59 ` Jeremiah Dodds [this message]
2012-04-27 4:24 ` Miles Bader
2012-04-27 8:49 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-04-27 14:23 ` Nix
2012-04-28 2:07 ` Better startup error handling (was: proposal to make null string handling more emacs-y) Stefan Monnier
2012-04-28 12:04 ` Better startup error handling Nix
2012-04-28 15:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-28 15:42 ` David Engster
2012-04-28 15:55 ` Drew Adams
2012-04-28 19:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-28 17:26 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-04-30 8:43 ` Christian Lynbech
2012-04-30 9:18 ` chad
2012-04-27 16:35 ` proposal to make null string handling more emacs-y Richard Stallman
2012-04-27 1:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-27 1:16 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-04-27 16:35 ` Richard Stallman
2012-04-28 11:13 ` Eli Barzilay
2012-04-28 17:02 ` Richard Stallman
2012-04-28 19:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-28 21:56 ` Eli Barzilay
2012-06-03 3:45 ` Richard Stallman
2012-04-27 4:17 ` Steve Yegge
2012-04-27 6:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-27 19:05 ` Steve Yegge
2012-04-27 21:24 ` Drew Adams
2012-04-28 4:43 ` Steve Yegge
2012-04-28 6:58 ` Andreas Schwab
2012-04-29 21:26 ` Odd formatting (was: proposal to make null string handling more emacs-y) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-04-30 7:48 ` Odd formatting Steinar Bang
2012-04-30 10:14 ` Antoine Levitt
2012-04-30 13:27 ` Nix
2012-04-28 2:02 ` proposal to make null string handling more emacs-y Stefan Monnier
2012-04-25 14:51 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-04-29 17:00 ` Andreas Röhler
2012-04-29 17:08 ` Drew Adams
2012-04-29 17:29 ` Andreas Röhler
2012-04-29 18:01 ` Drew Adams
2012-04-29 19:51 ` PJ Weisberg
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