* How to increase/decrease quote level in mail/usenet message? @ 2012-04-27 0:10 Grant Edwards 2012-04-27 2:55 ` XeCycle [not found] ` <mailman.139.1335495366.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Grant Edwards @ 2012-04-27 0:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs The other text editors I've used for editing email and nntp messages (and most of the GUI mail/news programs) all had commands to increase/decrease the quote level for a selected block of text. I use emacs for editing source code and almost all other tasks, but I haven't been able to switch to using it as my mail/usenet editor because I've never been able to find the command in mail-mode or message-mode to increase/decrease the quote level for a block of text. My fingers are programmed to do "ctrl-C >" and "ctrl-C <" to increase/decrease indentation/quoting, but that doesn't work. Nor does there appear to be anything under the mail/message menus. I've tried all the command names I can think of but auto-complete never finds anything. I must be missing something obvious. In mail or message mode, how do you increase/decrease the quote level of a region? -- Grant ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: How to increase/decrease quote level in mail/usenet message? 2012-04-27 0:10 How to increase/decrease quote level in mail/usenet message? Grant Edwards @ 2012-04-27 2:55 ` XeCycle [not found] ` <mailman.139.1335495366.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: XeCycle @ 2012-04-27 2:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1234 bytes --] Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes: > The other text editors I've used for editing email and nntp messages > (and most of the GUI mail/news programs) all had commands to > increase/decrease the quote level for a selected block of text. I use > emacs for editing source code and almost all other tasks, but I > haven't been able to switch to using it as my mail/usenet editor > because I've never been able to find the command in mail-mode or > message-mode to increase/decrease the quote level for a block of text. Just curious: Why would need that? > My fingers are programmed to do "ctrl-C >" and "ctrl-C <" to > increase/decrease indentation/quoting, but that doesn't work. Nor does > there appear to be anything under the mail/message menus. I've tried > all the command names I can think of but auto-complete never finds > anything. > > I must be missing something obvious. > > In mail or message mode, how do you increase/decrease the quote level > of a region? M-; In case you want more options, do C-h k M-; -- Carl Lei (XeCycle) Department of Physics, Shanghai Jiao Tong University OpenPGP public key: 7795E591 Fingerprint: 1FB6 7F1F D45D F681 C845 27F7 8D71 8EC4 7795 E591 [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 489 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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* Re: How to increase/decrease quote level in mail/usenet message? [not found] ` <mailman.139.1335495366.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2012-04-27 14:11 ` Grant Edwards 2012-04-27 14:53 ` Barry Margolin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Grant Edwards @ 2012-04-27 14:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs On 2012-04-27, XeCycle <XeCycle@Gmail.com> wrote: > Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes: > >> The other text editors I've used for editing email and nntp messages >> (and most of the GUI mail/news programs) all had commands to >> increase/decrease the quote level for a selected block of text. I use >> emacs for editing source code and almost all other tasks, but I >> haven't been able to switch to using it as my mail/usenet editor >> because I've never been able to find the command in mail-mode or >> message-mode to increase/decrease the quote level for a block of text. > > Just curious: Why would need that? To fix messages that have been broken by people who don't know how to quote. >> My fingers are programmed to do "ctrl-C >" and "ctrl-C <" to >> increase/decrease indentation/quoting, but that doesn't work. Nor does >> there appear to be anything under the mail/message menus. I've tried >> all the command names I can think of but auto-complete never finds >> anything. >> >> I must be missing something obvious. >> >> In mail or message mode, how do you increase/decrease the quote level >> of a region? > > M-; In case you want more options, do C-h k M-; Ah. It never occurred to me (and never would have) to look for commands starting with "comment-". I looked for indent, quote, level, increase, decrease, and about five other keywords. I have absolutely no clue why a command to increase/decrease a quote level would be called "comment-dwim". -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! I want a VEGETARIAN at BURRITO to go ... with gmail.com EXTRA MSG!! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: How to increase/decrease quote level in mail/usenet message? 2012-04-27 14:11 ` Grant Edwards @ 2012-04-27 14:53 ` Barry Margolin 2012-05-14 1:58 ` David Combs 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Barry Margolin @ 2012-04-27 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs In article <jne9e4$2t0$1@reader1.panix.com>, Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 2012-04-27, XeCycle <XeCycle@Gmail.com> wrote: > > Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes: > > > >> In mail or message mode, how do you increase/decrease the quote level > >> of a region? > > > > M-; In case you want more options, do C-h k M-; > > Ah. It never occurred to me (and never would have) to look for > commands starting with "comment-". I looked for indent, quote, level, > increase, decrease, and about five other keywords. I have absolutely > no clue why a command to increase/decrease a quote level would be > called "comment-dwim". Seems like they just took advantage of the fact that commenting is done in most languages simply by adding a prefix to the line, which is exactly the same as Usenet-style quoting. So rather than write a new function, they simply co-opted the existing one, since it's not needed for its original purpose in email/news. -- Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: How to increase/decrease quote level in mail/usenet message? 2012-04-27 14:53 ` Barry Margolin @ 2012-05-14 1:58 ` David Combs 2012-05-15 1:14 ` Barry Margolin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: David Combs @ 2012-05-14 1:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs In article <barmar-65BDF3.10535727042012@news.eternal-september.org>, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote: >In article <jne9e4$2t0$1@reader1.panix.com>, > Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> On 2012-04-27, XeCycle <XeCycle@Gmail.com> wrote: >> > Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes: >> > >> >> In mail or message mode, how do you increase/decrease the quote level >> >> of a region? >> > >> > M-; In case you want more options, do C-h k M-; >> >> Ah. It never occurred to me (and never would have) to look for >> commands starting with "comment-". I looked for indent, quote, level, >> increase, decrease, and about five other keywords. I have absolutely >> no clue why a command to increase/decrease a quote level would be >> called "comment-dwim". > >Seems like they just took advantage of the fact that commenting is done >in most languages simply by adding a prefix to the line, which is >exactly the same as Usenet-style quoting. So rather than write a new >function, they simply co-opted the existing one, since it's not needed >for its original purpose in email/news. > >-- >Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu >Arlington, MA >*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** Perl, I recall, has an optional quoting scheme with things like qq<char>jljljljljlkjlkjkl<same-char>. I may have the qq-name wrong, but perl has several of these things. Seem pretty useful to me! David ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: How to increase/decrease quote level in mail/usenet message? 2012-05-14 1:58 ` David Combs @ 2012-05-15 1:14 ` Barry Margolin 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Barry Margolin @ 2012-05-15 1:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs In article <joporn$o9r$2@reader1.panix.com>, dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) wrote: > In article <barmar-65BDF3.10535727042012@news.eternal-september.org>, > Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > >In article <jne9e4$2t0$1@reader1.panix.com>, > > Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: > > > >> On 2012-04-27, XeCycle <XeCycle@Gmail.com> wrote: > >> > Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes: > >> > > >> >> In mail or message mode, how do you increase/decrease the quote level > >> >> of a region? > >> > > >> > M-; In case you want more options, do C-h k M-; > >> > >> Ah. It never occurred to me (and never would have) to look for > >> commands starting with "comment-". I looked for indent, quote, level, > >> increase, decrease, and about five other keywords. I have absolutely > >> no clue why a command to increase/decrease a quote level would be > >> called "comment-dwim". > > > >Seems like they just took advantage of the fact that commenting is done > >in most languages simply by adding a prefix to the line, which is > >exactly the same as Usenet-style quoting. So rather than write a new > >function, they simply co-opted the existing one, since it's not needed > >for its original purpose in email/news. > > > >-- > >Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu > >Arlington, MA > >*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** > > Perl, I recall, has an optional quoting scheme with things > like qq<char>jljljljljlkjlkjkl<same-char>. > > I may have the qq-name wrong, but perl has several of these things. > Seem pretty useful to me! You seem to be talking about a different type of quoting: quoting strings in a programming language. We're talking about quoting messages in email/news, i.e. the way I prefixed your message with ">". -- Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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