From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Using cl in rst.el and elsewhere
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 15:47:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y5o41p8b.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 13152.1338730902@eskebo.merten-home.homelinux.org
Stefan Merten <smerten@oekonux.de> writes:
> Today Leo wrote:
>> We are already using CLOS (in the form of EIEIO), so the elisp lib cl.el
>> really has been unfairly treated for such a long time because it was put
>> into emacs too ahead of time and because of rms's dislike of CL (the
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> language).
>
> Ah, I see. Indeed this whole things really smells a lot like a
> political decision like this.
>
>> Also putting a cl- in front of everything merely reminds
>> people of Common Lisp. Can we just think of cl.el as some good ideas
>> stolen from Common Lisp and forget about it hereafter.
>
> +1
>
> More and more functional elements enter other programming languages -
> see Perl, Python, Scala, upcoming Java versions, ... Historically Lisp
> is the first functional programming language.
>
> Still AFAICS Emacs Lisp lacks something simple like `reduce'. Well, to
> make it worse: It *is* there - in cl.el. But you may not use it. This
> is really weird...
>
> Something similar applies to `defstruct'. Some standard mechanism to
> group a bunch of attributes would be really helpful - beyond abusing
> positions in lists for this. Am I missing something here?
Yes, it's so ridiculous, it's comical.
--
__Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/
A bad day in () is better than a good day in {}.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-06-03 13:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-04-30 13:29 Re-including rst.el into Emacs repository Stefan Merten
2012-04-30 13:37 ` Deniz Dogan
2012-04-30 15:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-05-07 20:06 ` Stefan Merten
2012-05-08 1:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-05-29 20:30 ` Stefan Merten
2012-05-30 2:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-05-30 19:15 ` Stefan Merten
2012-05-31 18:15 ` Glenn Morris
2012-05-31 19:22 ` Leo
2012-06-02 12:16 ` Wrong direction of C-M-a/e in rst-mode (was: Re: Re-including rst.el into Emacs repository) Stefan Merten
2012-06-03 2:08 ` Wrong direction of C-M-a/e in rst-mode Leo
2012-06-02 10:05 ` Using cl in rst.el and elsewhere (was: Re: Re-including rst.el into Emacs repository) Stefan Merten
2012-06-02 19:15 ` Using cl in rst.el and elsewhere Glenn Morris
2012-06-03 3:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-03 3:57 ` Leo
2012-06-02 19:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-03 2:21 ` Leo
2012-06-03 3:12 ` Miles Bader
2012-06-03 13:41 ` Stefan Merten
2012-06-03 13:47 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon [this message]
2012-06-03 15:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-03 18:30 ` Richard Stallman
2012-06-04 13:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-05 19:38 ` Stefan Merten
2012-05-02 16:59 ` Re-including rst.el into Emacs repository Barry Warsaw
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