From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13677: 24.2.50; workng on remote hosts with eshell is not very enjoyable Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:58:34 +0100 Message-ID: <87y5ev998l.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87txpkgjxk.fsf@fh-trier.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1360529931 22517 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2013 20:58:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:58:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13677@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andreas Politz Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 10 21:59:12 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U4dzR-0000r1-VN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:59:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56655 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U4dz8-0000aI-NV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:58:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58913) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U4dz5-0000a2-Kc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:58:48 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U4dz4-0001KL-Hy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:58:47 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:43929) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U4dz4-0001KH-Ek for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:58:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4dzJ-0004dD-U3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:59:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13677 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13677-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13677.136052994117796 (code B ref 13677); Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:59:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13677) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2013 20:59:01 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49393 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4dzI-0004cy-IZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:59:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:62452) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4dzE-0004cm-9u for 13677@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:58:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.20]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx002) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MHdb8-1U3XW704vk-003NDJ for <13677@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:58:39 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Feb 2013 20:58:38 -0000 Original-Received: from p57BB868C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO detlef.gmx.de) [87.187.134.140] by mail.gmx.net (mp020) with SMTP; 10 Feb 2013 21:58:38 +0100 X-Authenticated: #3708877 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19f2b0rdcBfhay45v9AJ5CaVwDLK8m/JdhVW1eQjw k5H2huIhHh+Zgn In-Reply-To: <87txpkgjxk.fsf@fh-trier.de> (Andreas Politz's message of "Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:25:43 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:71027 Archived-At: Andreas Politz writes: > emacs -Q > M-x eshell > cd /ssh:somehost.com: > stat . > stat . > ... > > Every stat command starts a new tramp process, which, in my case, takes > about 3-4 seconds to get going and renders eshell fairly useless for > this kind of work. > > Can this be changed such that eshell uses start-file-process only if the > command results in a background process and use process-file otherwise ? I fear that is not possible in general. The command could be interactive, requiring user input. This would not be possible with process-file. And eshell does not know in advance, whether an external command runs interactively. > Andreas Best regards, Michael.