From: Nic Ferrier <nferrier@ferrier.me.uk>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: CommonLisp namespace system (was Re: adding namespaces to emacs-lisp (better elisp?))
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 18:01:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y58t1cih.fsf_-_@ferrier.me.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ebdcb9c8-b59a-4002-b3cf-277d07dbebbc@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 26 Jul 2013 07:34:33 -0700 (PDT)")
Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
> I read your proposal overview, Nic. It's not clear to me just what
> the differences would be from the Common Lisp package system.
> Perhaps you could spell the differences out in more detail somewhere.
>
> But the closer we can get to the CL spec the better, IMO. If we
> could conform to it completely, that would be great.
I disagree. Emacs isn't CommonLisp, never has been CommonLisp and
very likely, never will be CommonLisp.
> Even keeping the same terminology, symbol names etc. as CL would
> help. It would help users who are coming from Common Lisp or who
> happen to read Common Lisp doc.
But at the expense of muddying the waters for people who are not from
that world.
In Emacs world, we use "package" to mean something different from what
CL "package" means. So right at the start that effort is doomed without
a major change to Emacs 24.
> Of course, adopting CL terminology in this regard should mean that
> we would drop the terminology used so far for Emacs "packages".
> An argument can be made that both uses of the word "package" are
> somewhat unfortunate.
I am trying to make a namespace system that would be backwards
compatible with Emacs and yet encourage future good behaviour.
CommonLisp terminology or compatibility is not a major aim of mine.
Nic
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-26 17:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-26 14:08 adding namespaces to emacs-lisp (better elisp?) Nic Ferrier
2013-07-26 14:34 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-26 17:01 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-26 17:01 ` Nic Ferrier [this message]
2013-07-26 17:19 ` CommonLisp namespace system (was Re: adding namespaces to emacs-lisp (better elisp?)) Drew Adams
2013-07-26 18:26 ` Sebastian Wiesner
2013-07-26 18:53 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-26 21:08 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-26 18:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-26 18:32 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-26 18:45 ` Tom Tromey
2013-07-26 18:58 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-26 19:06 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-26 20:46 ` CommonLisp namespace system Lars Brinkhoff
2013-07-26 20:57 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-26 21:47 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-29 17:31 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2013-07-26 20:57 ` CommonLisp namespace system (was Re: adding namespaces to emacs-lisp (better elisp?)) Drew Adams
2013-07-27 7:17 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-27 8:13 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-27 11:43 ` Bastien
2013-07-27 12:00 ` David Engster
2013-07-27 16:56 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-27 23:52 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-28 7:22 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-28 8:18 ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-28 12:10 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-28 13:48 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-29 10:12 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-29 10:45 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-30 0:31 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-27 9:37 ` CommonLisp namespace system Lars Brinkhoff
2013-07-26 19:42 ` CommonLisp namespace system (was Re: adding namespaces to emacs-lisp (better elisp?)) Drew Adams
2013-07-26 21:26 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-26 21:06 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-26 21:44 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-27 7:16 ` adding namespaces to emacs-lisp (better elisp?) Richard Stallman
2013-07-26 15:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-26 16:56 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-26 18:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-26 19:00 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-26 20:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-26 21:43 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-26 21:59 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-26 22:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-26 22:33 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-27 0:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-27 8:27 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-27 14:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-27 16:17 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-07-27 17:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-27 10:35 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-26 22:00 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-27 0:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-27 1:13 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-27 7:02 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2013-07-27 10:33 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-31 6:48 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2013-07-27 10:31 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-27 14:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-27 16:43 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-26 17:21 ` Davis Herring
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