From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A new name for the state of a set of frames? Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 23:32:49 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87y58l2mau.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <51F8CBD0.7020708@gmx.at> <87txjbt175.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <87ehaevqly.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87li4l79ra.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1375389278 19939 80.91.229.3 (1 Aug 2013 20:34:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 20:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers , Bastien , martin rudalics , Stefan Monnier , Thien-Thi Nguyen , chad To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 01 22:34:39 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V4za1-0000bH-JS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 22:34:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52613 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V4za0-0005gk-PV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 16:34:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44936) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V4zZs-0005gZ-R6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 16:34:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V4zZm-0002C8-QQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 16:34:28 -0400 Original-Received: from ps18281.dreamhost.com ([69.163.218.105]:36167 helo=ps18281.dreamhostps.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V4zZf-00029k-Ir; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 16:34:15 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A22258B9E915; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:34:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Thu, 1 Aug 2013 19:46:13 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-Received-From: 69.163.218.105 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:162335 Archived-At: >> Is a single-word name really valuable? How about >> frame-layout and window-layout? > > I wouldn't mind, but then again, "frame-layout" seems the layout of a > single frame; same for window-layout. We're back to frame-state, > window-state. But the current "frame-configuration" doesn't mean the layout of a single frame. IIUC, "frame" here is an adjective. The same is for "window-configuration". Then "frame-layout" and "window-layout" would be fine too. Actually you can see this terminology already in (info "(gnus) Window Layout") and ecb-layout-defs.el (that also allow percentage for window/frame sizes that would be useful when restoring in non-matching setups with different monitor sizes.) OTOH, I missed what is wrong with the existing names "frame-configuration" and "window-configuration"? Do we need a new terminology because "window-configuration" has too wide scope, so a new term like "layout" would be more specific about positioning windows/frames? I mean does the following describes the state of affairs: window-configuration = window-layout + non-layout parameters